Package: jackd2 Version: 1.9.7~dfsg-1 Severity: normal currently libjack "recommends" to install jackd, which usually evaluates to not automatically install jackd if a package depends on libjack.
i read bug-report #442814 which implemented the change from "suggests" to "recommends" but i am not totally convinced that i can follow the argument (being myself rather audio-centric, so i have a natural bias ;-)) in short: - a lot of audio-packages have jack support and thus depend on libjack - installing libjack does not mean that jackd _must_ be installed (great, i like weak dependencies) - however, installing libjack will not trigger an installation of jackd (due to the _very_ weak dependency), thus most installations will end up without jackd installed (that was the purpose of #442814) - if the user wants to use the jack-enabled application (which they installed using apt), it will not work in most of these installations as jack cannot be started, giving a cryptic error (e.g. "/usr/bin/jackd not found"), leaving the use alone i therefore suggest to raise dependency-level of libjack towards jackd to "suggests" again, so people will actually be able to use their installed jack-enabled applications. alternative suggestions: - the packagers could manually add "Suggests: jackd" to each package; this is ugly as it has to be done for each and every jack-enabled package and requires a lot more packaging ressources. - add a new mechanism to apt, maintaining a "recommendation score" for each package (A) which is raised whenever the user installs a package (B) that 'recommends: A'; once several packages recommending A are installed, A could enter auto-install mode (a la 'suggests') thus people focusing around a group of applications (e.g. audio people) will get what they expect; this is ugly, as people installing loads of similar software will probably install the recommended application as well, whereas the occasional user will be left without e.g. jackd and a "non-working" system; mdfasr IOhannes -- System Information: Debian Release: wheezy/sid APT prefers testing APT policy: (990, 'testing'), (500, 'oldstable'), (500, 'unstable'), (1, 'experimental') Architecture: i386 (i686) Kernel: Linux 2.6.36-trunk-686 (SMP w/4 CPU cores) Locale: LANG=de_AT.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=de_AT.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Versions of packages jackd2 depends on: ii coreutils 8.5-1 GNU core utilities ii debconf [debconf-2.0] 1.5.38 Debian configuration management sy ii libasound2 1.0.23-3 shared library for ALSA applicatio ii libc6 2.11.2-11 Embedded GNU C Library: Shared lib ii libcelt0-0 0.7.1-1 The CELT codec runtime library ii libdbus-1-3 1.4.8-3 simple interprocess messaging syst ii libexpat1 2.0.1-7 XML parsing C library - runtime li ii libgcc1 1:4.6.0-2 GCC support library ii libjack-jackd2-0 1.9.7~dfsg-1 JACK Audio Connection Kit (librari ii libncurses5 5.9-1 shared libraries for terminal hand ii libreadline6 6.1-3 GNU readline and history libraries ii libsamplerate0 0.1.7-3 Audio sample rate conversion libra ii libsndfile1 1.0.24-1 Library for reading/writing audio ii libstdc++6 4.6.0-2 The GNU Standard C++ Library v3 ii python 2.6.6-14 interactive high-level object-orie ii python-dbus 0.83.1-1+b1 simple interprocess messaging syst Versions of packages jackd2 recommends: ii jackd2-firewire 1.9.7~dfsg-1 JACK Audio Connection Kit (FFADO a ii libpam-modules 1.1.2-2 Pluggable Authentication Modules f ii qjackctl 0.3.7-4 User interface for controlling the Versions of packages jackd2 suggests: pn jack-tools <none> (no description available) pn meterbridge <none> (no description available) -- Configuration Files: /etc/security/limits.d/audio.conf changed [not included] -- debconf information excluded _______________________________________________ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
