On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 16:29, Hans-Christoph Steiner <h...@at.or.at> wrote: > > On Dec 27, 2010, at 4:09 AM, Felipe Sateler wrote: > >> On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 02:09, Hans-Christoph Steiner <h...@at.or.at> >> wrote: >>> >>> On Dec 25, 2010, at 6:34 AM, Felipe Sateler wrote: >>> >>>> On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 14:55, Hans-Christoph Steiner <h...@at.or.at> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On Dec 24, 2010, at 9:41 AM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 02:10:27PM -0300, Felipe Sateler wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 00:27, Hans-Christoph Steiner <h...@at.or.at> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I just pushed some changes to pd-cyclone that create a split-out >>>>>>>> binary >>>>>>>> package called 'cyclist'. As far as I understand it, I don't need >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> ITP >>>>>>>> this new 'cyclist' package since its split off of the pd-cyclone >>>>>>>> source >>>>>>>> package, but it does need to go thru the NEW queue. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 'cyclist' is a command line utility for converting file formats that >>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>> built as part of the 'cyclone' library. Its the only thing in >>>>>>>> 'pd-cyclone' >>>>>>>> that installs into /usr/bin and has a man page, so it made sense to >>>>>>>> me >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> split it out. Then it can be installed on its own without puredata >>>>>>>> or >>>>>>>> any >>>>>>>> Pd libraries. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Its ready for a sponsor/uploader if you are ready for it. :) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It seems to me there isn't much point in having the cyclist binary >>>>>>> without pd. What is the use case of converting Max/MSP patches into >>>>>>> text, if >>>>>>> not for importing into pd? >>>>>> >>>>>> A search engine, perhaps? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> It would be useful to Max/MSP users separate from Pd. And perhaps also >>>>> useful to other computer music people. The binary file format is >>>>> really >>>>> only for Max/MSP, but the text file format is quite old, and used by a >>>>> number of other members of the Max family. Pd and jMax for example, >>>>> which >>>>> are free software, and Max/FTS and Max/ISPW which are specialty >>>>> proprietary >>>>> versions of Max. >>>> >>>> OK. The Recommends on cyclist by pd-cyclone is not clear to me. If >>>> these tools have different use cases, then maybe recommends is too >>>> strong a relationship. >>> >>> >>> Since the central goal of the 'cyclone' library is for running Max/MSP >>> files >>> in Pd, and Max/MSP patches are usually distributed in the .mxb binary >>> format, I think it makes sense to Recommend: cyclist so that 'cyclone' >>> users >>> can translate .mxb files to .pat/.mxt files, which Pd can directly read. >> >> So, if I understand correctly, pd users still need to run cyclist, >> even if they have pd-cyclone installed? > > > Yes, cyclist is only for converting the Max/MSP-specific binary .mxb format > to the more widely implemented text format .mxt/.pat. pd-cyclone is a > library that allows Pd to act more like Max/MSP, but Pd only reads the > .mxt/.pat format.
OK then. You edited debian/control, but Jonas added debian/control.in for build-dependencies autogeneration. If you disagree about the use of debian/control.in, we should disable it. If not, we should use it. But having it and not using it does not seem a sane option. -- Saludos, Felipe Sateler _______________________________________________ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
