On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 17:12, Paolo Greppi <paolo.gre...@libpf.com> wrote:
#960120 is keeping yarnpkg out of testing; there are two ways to resolve this:

1. work with upstream to fix this mess (not likely to happen as upstream seems unresponsive)

2. revert the changes that caused the issue; the last successful salsa CI pipeline I can find is this one:
https://salsa.debian.org/js-team/node-yarnpkg/-/commit/877478d5ef3f8a7564cdea211e5cd794fdfb97b5
so just revert all changes to this repo and the build deps to this status

I urge those who caused the mess fix it.

Hi Paolo,

We discussed about plan to remove babel 6 from bullseye from the very beginning as upstream won't be supporting it for the life time of bullseye. You can look at the list archive for those mails. I think it is only normal to move to new upstream versions of libraries. We also sent list of affected packages frequently to the list. No one suggested to keep babel 6 in testing at that time. You had a chance to request keeping babel 6 before it was removed as well. Marking for autoremoval was also a warning (node-yarnpkg was also marked for auto removal when I filed rc bug against node-babel), you could have requested keeping babel 6 for longer, though eventually it has to be removed from bullseye if no one steps up to maintain it.

If someone wants to keep babel 6, they have to step in and take up maintenance. Or you could even embed babel 6 in yarnpkg as it is the only package currently in the archive that does not work without babel 7. Introducing babel 6 back in testing means supporting babel 6 and 7 for the life time of bullseye. Are you prepared to do that? If someone volunteers to maintain babel 6 in bullseye, we can still introduce it back, though my preference would be to fix yarnpkg or wait for yarnpkg 2 (which supports babel 7 already), even if it means missing bullseye and getting it in bullseye-backports.

This is nothing specific to yarnpkg here, that is how every library transition works. For example in ruby team, we moved to rails 6 and the packages that did not support rails 6 were removed from testing (applications like redmine, open-build-system and diaspora were not compatible with rails 6). We cannot expect old versions of libraries will be supported forever in debian.

Thanks
Praveen



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