Hi Desmond! On Sat, 2010-08-07 at 14:00 +0800, Desmond O. Chang wrote: > On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 14:54, Luca Capello <l...@pca.it> wrote: > > On Tue, 2010-07-27 at 04:38 +0800, Desmond O. Chang wrote: > >> I am looking for a sponsor for the new version 1:20100709.gitf6262b0-1 > >> of my package "stumpwm". > > > > If I would be too much conservative, I would say that you are hijacking > > StumpWM (yes, it is a bit outdated, but there are not big problems with > > that). However, that would not be me, and having attended this year > > DebConf10 "Bits from the DPL" > > <http://penta.debconf.org/dc10_schedule/events/569.en.html> (and also > > being listed as myself and team in > > <http://wiki.debian.org/LowThresholdNmu>), you are more than welcome to > > get StumpWM (and I was only delaying my orphaning...). > > Thank you for forgiving me. I upload it because I'm tired of hacking > the bugs in my rcfile. I hope it will be good for you.
Sure, I would have liked to orphan it a *long* time ago (I switched back to Ratpoison after +/- 5 years with StumpWM), but as usual I got busied with Real Life issues. Please note that at some point last year Ramkumar Ramachandra (Cc:ed) also showed interest in the StumpWM Debian package, you may want to coordinate with him any future upload. > > Some "problems": > > > > 1) your OpenPGP key is not available on hkp://subkeys.pgp.net, please > > upload it with `gpg --send-key --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net 17C7B4BA`. > > Hint: subkeys.pgp.net is a round-robin server > > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Round_robin_DNS>. > > Done! Thank you. > > 2) I am not so familiar with source-format-3.0, but AFAIK you must not > > depend on quilt anymore, if you do not specifically use quilt in > > debian/rules. Which means that every quilt usage except > > applying/removing patches in debian/rules is useless, but *again* I am > > not familiar with source-format-3.0... > > I haven't touched debian/rules, so it still depends on quilt. Mmm, I fail to get why in such case you still want to build-depend on quilt. If we use quilt for simple-patch management, then source-format-3.0(quilt) already manages that, without any extra build-dependency except "dpkg (>= 1.15.5.4)". Please note that having less build-dependency is a good thing, because, for example, the buildds (and others, e.g. pbuilder) need less packages to be installed. At the same time, if you switch to source-format-3.0(quilt), you also need to remove debian/README.source and document each patch as for DEP-3, please check <http://wiki.debian.org/Projects/DebSrc3.0>. BTW, these are not complaints, I actually want to understand why you half-switched to source-format-3.0(quilt) ;-) > > If you do not react in the next 3 days, I will upload the version above. > > I've provided the manpage alternative and confirmed Standards-Version > is 3.9.1. Please ignore my uploading and rebuild it. Sure, while doing it directly from the Git repository I indirectly found a problem with debcheckout <http://bugs.debian.org/592660> :-( Moreover, since I use git-buildpackage, I added to the repository a minimal debian/gbp.conf, so git-buildpackage work by default without any change (it can be also useful for automatic builds): http://git.debian.org/?p=pkg-common-lisp/stumpwm.git;a=commitdiff;h=33aebb0412884323eede4849677a0dd361b8a809 Doing that, I set the distribution to "UNRELEASED" to avoid any faulty upload to Debian (dput will wine if you try to upload a package with that distribution) and also unfinalized the debian/changelog entry. This last point is still controversial, given that there are different workflows <http://bugs.debian.org/517973>. However, my point in this being that I would prefer you to finalize the package. > > Finally, I would strongly suggest you to start the process to become (at > > least) Debian Maintainer <http://wiki.debian.org/DebianMaintainer>, > > which means that once you have obtained this status, you will be able to > > upload by yourself the packages you maintain (after previous "approval" > > in debian/control). This speeds things a bit ;-) > > Now I must read the guide first :) Given the quality of your work on StumpWM (I have not checked the other packages you maintain, sorry) and your responsiveness, reading the Debian packaging documentation (Policy, Developer Reference & Co.) should not be too difficult, right? Feel free to ask for any question you have, a better list would be debian-mentors@, but if your questions are Common Lisp-specific, this list is fine as well. Thank you for stepping in taking care of Common Lisp in Debian. Thx, bye, Gismo / Luca
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