>> Apparently, all dh_lisp does for source code is run >> clc-update-customized-images >> which recompiled "customized images" that use the library. >> >> But I see nothing to produce those "customized images". >> Is anyone using this feature? Probably not. >> This possibly makes the whole thing a red herring. >> >> Maybe we don't need common-lisp-controller at all? >> All we need is make sure every debian implementation can >> (require :asdf) and get a recent asdf2. Since asdf is self-upgradable, >> we don't need to enforce a same system-wide asdf2 for all implementations: >> you (require :asdf), and if you want whichever is system installed, you can >> (asdf:load-system :asdf). > > c-l-c seems not only a asdf caller. I think cl-asdf is different from > other cl- packages, because those packages all depend on it, it must > be loaded before any other package. In current c-l-c mechanism, asdf > is compiled into implementation during the impl's installation. > Yes.
To survive with minimal modifications to existing software, I recommend that: * we modify dh-lisp to *NOT* create a dependency on c-l-c for source packages, only for binary packages. * we re-package a cl-asdf 2:2.004-2 with this new dh-lisp. * now c-l-c depends on cl-asdf but not the other way around. Indeed, the dh-lisp created packages post-install scripts: * check whether c-l-c is installed, and do nothing if it is not. * therefore do not really depend on c-l-c In the long run, my proposal is to: * get wholly rid of c-l-c and dh-lisp * just make sure that (require :asdf) will work on all lisps, possibly depending on cl-asdf at build time to include a precompiled version of the latest packaged asdf, when asdf isn't already provided by the implementation (clisp?). Advantages: * less maintenance * behavior closer between debian-installed and other-installed lisps. Disadvantages: * none that I know of. Does anyone use the /et/common-lisp/images feature? [ François-René ÐVB Rideau | Reflection&Cybernethics | http://fare.tunes.org ] Anyone who goes to a psychiatrist ought to have his head examined. — Samuel Goldwyn _______________________________________________ pkg-common-lisp-devel mailing list pkg-common-lisp-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-common-lisp-devel
