On Tue, Feb 23, 2021, 23:06 Davide BERTOLOTTO <davide.bertolo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> After all these years I am still wondering how people like complicated > sintaxes full of special forms more than the simplicity of lisp. After all, > the parentheses and the prefix notation do not look so terrible to me, > especially considering that you gain a lot in clarity and simplicity of the > language. Probably is the same reason that pushes people to create yet > another programming language every now and then xD. > Exactly! C(11) is not a write-only language, but at best a write-once language!! A Turing Tarpit. `` Fools ignore complexity. Pragmatists suffer it. Some can avoid it. Geniuses remove it. '' -- Alan Perlis, Epigrams on Programming On Tue, Feb 23, 2021, 21:03 pd <eukel...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> >> On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 5:00 PM Danilo Kordic <danilo.kor...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> 'float' could be implemented as a lib. >>> >> >> yes, but the point here it is not at core and even having a float lib or >> whatever science lib, python is plenty of them and a nicer syntax >> >> it's not about me neither talking about (pico)lisp features and better >> syntax, I'm yet convinced 'cause I'm a schemer thus a lisper and I'm here >> in that list after all >> But most people don't think so and no matter how better and nicer I find >> the lisp syntax, the world thinks the opposite ;-) >> >> maybe you can find a killer app or even a killer science app leting >> picolisp shine but as soon as people has to program in picolisp (I mean >> scripting) they will feel uncofortable, they will always prefer R or >> python, just for syntax, not talking about huge amount of libraries and >> community support, developers should enjoy (pico)lisp facilities to >> develop and organice knowledge but as soon as had practical issue the lack >> of specialized libraries will make them comply thinking in wide spread >> python or ruby (just talking dynamic 'script' languages only)... >> >> It's not a problem of picolisp only, it's common to all lisp dialects and >> even cool minor languages... This is the reason for using lua for scripting >> rather than picolisp, guile or even tcl >> Also this is the problem for all lisp about their use in real apps, I >> see this in common lisp, in scheme, ... The only lisp-like with hype and >> relative wide use is clojure and one key reason is libraries (achieved by >> jvm side) >> >> And this is how it's gonna be... we live in the dictatorship of C-like >> syntax world! ;-) >> >> (damnification is not only in lisp world, same happen to smalltalk and >> derivatives, forth-like derivatives and so on) >> > This is complete rubbish (IMHO)!! You are not even a normie, but an NPC!!
