My friend! The political wind has massively changed from US side. We cannot go on doing business like 5 months and 6 days ago.
You brains simply haven't noticed yet ... Am Mittwoch, 6. Mai 2020 schrieb Alfonso Villén <alfonso.vil...@gmail.com>: > Hello Guido, > >> Alex, go on using LLVM. See you in Guantanamo. (Remember: Meng Wanzhou > was caught in Canada with US warrant). >> >> Unbelievable ignorance!!!! > > I don't understand what makes you think that Alex is an ignorant. > > First of all, I want to thank Alex as John already did. I don't know Alex and I'm only a hobby programmer (with limited experience in several languages), but from his work and from the experience and savoir-faire that that work emits, I can see that he made (and is still making) wise decisions. > > Picolisp is useful for me, but for Alex, it's a way of life. So if he has choosen LLVM, he must have good reasons for this. Not a random or ignorant choice. > > If you think another way to develop pil21 will be better and Picolisp really means that much to you, then please, be constructive and help. You have experience with DynASM, Web Assembly or whatever? You know Picolisp so deeply that you can build it from scratch using other toolchains? Then show how *you* would do it, give directions, show some code and offer your collaboration. Unless you go that way, all you say is blah blah and you're saying it in a quite unrespectful and selfish manner, by the way. For now, I'll trust Alex more than I trust you. > > Regards, > > Alfonso > > On 6/5/20 15:35, Guido Stepken wrote: > > I don't discourage him. I present facts. LLVM contains plenty of AI code, especially for generating code for NVIDIA chips. > > Since January 1st there are export restrictions for AI code to China now. > > https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-artificial-intelligence/u-s-government-limits-exports-of-artificial-intelligence-software-idUSKBN1Z21PT > > Means: No use of LLVM within China any longer. No use of pil21 with LLVM JIT in China. Same for many other countries. > > Whole world now is rethinking use of US software stacks in general. > > Again: "Keep away from US Software Stacks!!!" > > Alex, go on using LLVM. See you in Guantanamo. (Remember: Meng Wanzhou was caught in Canada with US warrant). > > Unbelievable ignorance!!!! > > Am Mittwoch, 6. Mai 2020 schrieb George-Phillip Orais < oraisgeorgephil...@gmail.com>: >> Hi Guido, >> Thank you for sharing your insights here, I have fun reading them. >> But please respect Alex decision in using LLVM for pil21, its his choice and its his programming language, so please stop discouraging him. >> >> BR, >> Geo >> >> >> >> On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 10:12 PM John Duncan <duncan.j...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hey Alex, >>> Just wanted to tell you how much I appreciate your work. I hope you find a blowhard like Guido amusing and not too irritating. I get the impression he’s hardly written a line of code in his life, and that was probably in Java. >>> Take care! >>> John >>> On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 07:59 Alexander Burger <a...@software-lab.de> wrote: >>>> >>>> On Wed, May 06, 2020 at 12:51:33PM +0200, Guido Stepken wrote: >>>> > Use Mike's DYNASM JIT Engine. Better, faster, smaller (tiny, in comparison >>>> > to LLVM), more portable. He's from Munich. >>>> >>>> Useless. >>>> >>>> Sigh! How often have I told here that the main purpose of pil21 is portability? >>>> I need it to build PilBox on iOS, and to support RISC-V architectures. In fact >>>> *all* 64-bit architectures, as I got tired of porting pil64. >>>> >>>> And I need it NOW!! Not *perhaps* in ten years. >>>> >>>> Also, please shut up with WebAssembly. I need something running on POSIX for >>>> server side applications. Something in the browser is as useful for me as >>>> chewing gum for my cat. >>>> >>>> — Alex >>>> >>>> -- >>>> UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe >>> >>> -- >>> John Duncan
