php-windows Digest 11 Feb 2004 21:45:11 -0000 Issue 2117
Topics (messages 22785 through 22790):
Emailing via mail(), secondary servers
22785 by: Paul J. Smith
22787 by: Svensson, B.A.T. (HKG)
22788 by: hubo
22790 by: Manuel Lemos
win + php + ssl + mysql
22786 by: Chris Kwan
Re: perl & php
22789 by: Vail, Warren
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Hi,
At the moment you only seem able to send mail via a specific host
specified in the ini file. I want some resilience so I can send
emails even if the first mail server cannot accept email.
Problem 1
As far as I know mail() returns no result so you cannot tell if your
first attempt to mail something was OK or not.
Problem 2
You can't override the relaying server ip in the mail() function.
Has anyone dealt with this? Any suggestions before I try and botch my
own solution?
Thanks.
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PHP can do port connects, do a raw connect to port 25 (SMTP) at
<anyserver>, that would solve all your listed problems below.
There might be a smarter way, but a port connect will
give you full controll of your mail delivery.
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From: Paul J. Smith
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 2004-02-11 12:13
Subject: [PHP-WIN] Emailing via mail(), secondary servers
Hi,
At the moment you only seem able to send mail via a specific host
specified in the ini file. I want some resilience so I can send
emails even if the first mail server cannot accept email.
Problem 1
As far as I know mail() returns no result so you cannot tell if your
first attempt to mail something was OK or not.
Problem 2
You can't override the relaying server ip in the mail() function.
Has anyone dealt with this? Any suggestions before I try and botch my
own solution?
Thanks.
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"Paul J. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi,
At the moment you only seem able to send mail via a specific host
specified in the ini file. I want some resilience so I can send
emails even if the first mail server cannot accept email.
Problem 1
As far as I know mail() returns no result so you cannot tell if your
first attempt to mail something was OK or not.
Do not understand what you mean. In php manual:
"mail() returns TRUE if the mail was successfully accepted for delivery, FALSE
otherwise. "
And on my W2K box the function does return false if I pause the smtp server.
Problem 2
You can't override the relaying server ip in the mail() function.
I have put on a second server a php script which sends mails for me. >From the first
one you can call the second server using standard HTTP protocol ( fopen("http://.... )
).
Has anyone dealt with this? Any suggestions before I try and botch my
own solution?
Thanks.
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Hello,
On 02/11/2004 09:13 AM, Paul J. Smith wrote:
At the moment you only seem able to send mail via a specific host
specified in the ini file. I want some resilience so I can send
emails even if the first mail server cannot accept email.
Problem 1
As far as I know mail() returns no result so you cannot tell if your
first attempt to mail something was OK or not.
PHP returns a result yes but that means whether the relay SMTP server
accepted the message for later delivery. It can't tell immediately if
the message could be delivered to the final recepient unless the final
SMTP server is the same.
Still, you need to be aware that some servers are configured to ignore
messages that will never be delivered. Most servers will bounce the
message but often not imediately. Usually the messages go to local queue
before they are attempted to deliver to the final mailbox. This has
been particularly true with servers with anti-virus that can't handle
the flood of infected messages so fast.
The best you can do is to set a return path address so the message gets
bounced soon or later in case there was a problem.
Problem 2
You can't override the relaying server ip in the mail() function.
Not on Windows with normal SMTP servers. On Unix/Linux using sendmail,
the messages are not queued using SMTP. That is too slow and pointless
when the sendmail is installed in the same machine where you are sending
messages from.
Has anyone dealt with this? Any suggestions before I try and botch my
own solution?
I would suggest dumping Windows and use a Unix/Linux solution with
sendmail or compatible program like qmail, postfix, etc...
If you are stuck with Windows, you may want to try this SMTP class that
les you send messages directly to the receipient SMTP server, thus
without relaying in any intermediate SMTP server.
http://www.phpclasses.org/smtpclass
If you do not want to change your scripts much, you may also want to use
this other class that uses the class above to send message via SMTP. It
comes with a wrapper function named smtp_mail() that is compatible with
the mail() function but lets you configure SMTP delivery details like
direct delivery option.
http://www.phpclasses.org/mimemessage
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Regards,
Manuel Lemos
Free ready to use OOP components written in PHP
http://www.phpclasses.org/
Metastorage - Data object relational mapping layer generator
http://www.meta-language.net/metastorage.html
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I have php pages working along witha Mysql in a Windows 2000 server. What I
want it's adding ssl to the pages.
At the moment I'm using Apache, but this can be change to another webserver
if neccesary.
I've tried to set the system up, but the result is the server turns out to
be unstable. My pages does not deliver correctly.
I've also tried to change the apache to IIS, but with no success.
Is there anyone who know if this combination is possible and how to set it
up. Or what can I do to make it all work. Parts that I can't change is win +
php + mysql + ssl.
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I've also done one implementation where a process written in Perl
(multi-threaded) was started independent of the apache environment and a PHP
web-app connected via a socket to request information. It was treated as
two separate developments, with no real mix of code. Sounds like that may
have been what you were thinking (mixing code), and I haven't seen any
interpretive language willing to accommodate another that way. Someone
would have to build a common runtime environment for that to work, I'd
expect. PHP probably comes closest with a very small attempt in the area of
Perl Compatible regular expressions;
http://www.php.net/manual/en/ref.pcre.php
There is some experimental work going on with Java, but you weren't looking
for that;
http://www.php.net/manual/en/ref.java.php
bottom line they all seem to mix like oil and water, my recommendation would
be to keep them separate.
Warren Vail
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From: Svensson, B.A.T. (HKG) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 1:22 AM
To: 'Mark Anderson '; '[EMAIL PROTECTED] '
Subject: RE: [PHP-WIN] perl & php
Is this what you are lokking for(?):
www.php.net/popen
www.php.net/passthru
www.php.net/exec
www.php.bet/shell_exec
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From: Mark Anderson
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 2004-02-09 00:03
Subject: [PHP-WIN] perl & php
hi list. does anyone have a clue on managing access to a script
written in perl from php? is there a way they can work together?
thanxs in advance.
mark
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