Mihail, Well, I am not sure if PHP will be the next big thing. I will say that PHP does have a good standing in popularity. With scripting languages ASP seems to be the dominate language in the job market. Employers look at ASP as a "commercial" language where some may look at PHP as "non-commercial". Once the job market realizes that ASP is not the main cup of tea, maybe PHP will become the dominate one. I will say that there is NOT any one particular language that "has-it-all". I wouldn't be surprised if a company doesn't take advantage of this and invest in creating a "has-it-all" language. Then again, there will always be PROS and CONS with any new language. There are many new "scripting" languages in the up and comings like "iHTML" or "XHTML".
NOTE: when I talk about "scripting languages", I am referring to any web-based language that integrates with HTML to be used online. John Negretti Web Applications Developer Cox Communications www.cox.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Mihail Bota [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 1:11 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [PHP-WIN] PHP jobs > > > John, > > True. I am sure that the many of us > who are on this list (if not all), are going to say that PHP > is "Big" and > is going to the the next "Big" thing. However, are there any > "unbiased" > analyses? Sort of comparisons between Postgres and Mysql, but > which would > point out the reasons why PHP will be the next "Big"? > > And because is the time of testimonials, I have to confess that (PHP, > MySql) pair made me happy. I am not a programmer, I just > fiddle around in > the field called neuroinformatics. I worked with other things > in the past > (such as the package Informix/Illustra which gave me headaches and > nightmares), and none of those couldn't do everything what > PHP/Mysql are > doing. Needless to say that packages like JPGraph allowed me to post > histograms and such and made my boss happy:). Still, this > does not mean > the PHP is going to be automatically the next Big thing. > I even do not know what are the criteria that a > software/language has to > fulfill to become a buzzword/"the ultimate" and so on. > > Mihai > > On Wed, 16 Oct 2002, Negretti, John (CCI-San Diego) wrote: > > > All, > > > > Let me throw in my two-cents. > > > > I have just recently switched my primary scripting > language to PHP. :-) For the past 4 years I have been > dabbling with different scripting languages. I was primarily > ColdFusion then I started getting into "Miva Script". I > liked the language so much, I got a software development job > at the company that actually made the language, (Miva > Corporation, www.miva.com). I was with Miva Corp. for over 2 > years. Just about every major webhost offers Miva Script. I > thought Miva Script was going to be the next BIG thing. I > opposed anyone who though PHP or ColdFusion or ASP was > better. I was known as the "Miva Script Evangelist". I was > young and naive. :-P > > > > Here are the reasons why it did NOT do good, and still does not. > > > > 1. Too complicated to install on a server. > > 2. Not cheap. > > 3. Too many restrictions with the license. > > 4. No marketing campaigns. > > 5. No good resources/tutorials. > > > > After exhaustive research to find a NEW primary scripting > language, I found PHP. I even changed my personal website > (www.ideablue.com) from Miva Script to PHP. There may not be > a vast amount of PHP jobs, but there will be soon. Here's why... > > > > 1. PHP is free. > > 2. PHP is easy to learn. > > 3. Lots of resources. > > > > Many companies are switching to PHP mostly because it's > free and works so well with a FREE database (MySQL). At > large corporations there is LOTS of red tape to get through > for an approval of a "paid" software. Since PHP is free, IT > managers can install PHP without any hassles or complaints > form "corporate". The internet is still young and growing > and so is the need for more "web developers" who can do more > than just plain HTML. > > > > To all those who develop PHP, I THANK YOU ALL, for your > hard work and effort to make such a powerful language. > > > > John Negretti > > Web Applications Developer > > Cox Communications www.cox.com > > (619) 266-5565 > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Rasmus Lerdorf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 11:38 AM > > > To: Mihail Bota > > > Cc: RS Herhuth; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: [PHP-WIN] PHP jobs > > > > > > > > > > Rasmus, just wondering, any species requirements from that > > > moneky to learn > > > > PHP? It would be interesting to see a gorrila and a > lemur coding in > > > > PHP, side by side :) > > > > > > First, it is a given the person has significant experience > > > with C, C++ or > > > Java, Perl or Python or Ruby, Apache, and XML. If the resume > > > doesn't hit > > > those basic points, toss it. Next I look for interesting project > > > experience and pick out the people who have done things along > > > the lines of > > > what my current requirements are. > > > > > > -Rasmus > > > > > > > On Wed, 16 Oct 2002, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: > > > > > > > > > They are, but personally when I hire a "PHP" programmer I > > > don't look for > > > > > PHP skills. I look for other skills that show that the > > > person is bright. > > > > > I can teach a moderately intelligent monkey to use PHP. > > > > > > > > > > I think most people look at things too much from a tool > > > perspective. You > > > > > don't hire a newspaper writer because his resume says he > > > knows how to > > > > > type. You look at what he has written. He may not be > > > able to type at > > > > > all. > > > > > > > > > > -Rasmus > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 16 Oct 2002, RS Herhuth wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hear from a lot of different sources that PHP is the > > > next "Big" thing. I > > > > > > have been using PHP myself for some pretty serious web > > > application > > > > > > development for my current job for well over a year > > > now. But my question is > > > > > > in searching for potential PHP related employment there > > > isn't much of > > > > > > anything out there. 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