One of the fundamental rules of blackbox programming is that a function
should never change the value of a global variable. And there are very
compelling reasons why this rule exists.

I'm simply suggesting that "passing by reference" as a programming
"technique" breaks this fundamental rule.....although I am not suggesting
that passing by reference is in itself a "bad thing"....perhaps a necessary
evil.

All I'm saying is ....have the "rules" changed since I left Uni?



Ignatius



----- Original Message -----
From: "Pac mon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: Fw: [PHP-WIN] Passing by reference...


> Some teachers will say this just because they think students are dumb. The
> reasoning behind it is that 'if we teach them to pass by reference some
> other dumb programmer can accidentally change values around and break
> stuff!' Simpletons!
> >
> >Isn't passing by reference a "no-no" is terms of good programming? At
least
> >that's what I was told when I studied programming about 12 years ago?
> >
> >Ignatius
> >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Anthony Ritter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2002 2:40 PM
> >Subject: Re: [PHP-WIN] Passing by reference...
> >
> >
> > > Michael Sims wrote in message:
> > > > Yes, that is true.  The "tax" function has the ampersand in the
> >argument
> > > > list, which means that any variable that you send to it gets passed
by
> > > > reference.  This means that any changes to that variable that occur
> >inside
> > > > the function will actually affect the same variable that is in the
> >scope
> > > of
> > > > the main script.  Without the ampersand, the function will only
modify
> > > it's
> > > > own local copy of the variable and leave the one in the main script
> > > > unaltered.  If you remove the ampersand from the above script and
> >re-run
> > > > it, then the output of the first echo statement should not change,
but
> >the
> > > > second one will change to 2500 since the function will no longer be
> > > > altering the variable in the main script.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.php.net/manual/en/language.references.pass.php
> > > >
> > > > Sorry if I'm not understanding your question...
> > > ....................................
> > >
> > > Thanks for the reply Michael.   You've answered my question.
> > >
> > > A happy and healthy new year to you and yours.
> > > Tony Ritter
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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