If you have been having a problem with TTF and have PHP v 4.0.6, I have discovered that the php_gd.dll file distributed with 4.0.6 is to blame, as when I replaced the file with the one from v 4.0.5, the functions work correctly. I uploaded the .dll here: http://www.sunflower.com/~kiera/php_gd.dll Good luck, Kiera -- PHP Windows Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]