php-windows Digest 27 Jan 2001 16:26:49 -0000 Issue 417

Topics (messages 5219 through 5230):

Re: Random Code
        5219 by: Svensson, B.A.T.
        5223 by: Larry Forrister
        5224 by: Larry Forrister
        5225 by: Asendorf, John

Re: Is it possible to CONVERT file formats?
        5220 by: Angus Mann

Sent field showing wrong date and time!!
        5221 by: Clark Morgan

You can have a  visa card .. no deposit
        5222 by: garey
        5228 by: Thor M. Steindorsson

Re: PHP Messages
        5226 by: Pablo Vera
        5227 by: Ryan Grove

Hello
        5229 by: Graduate

Jabber and PHP
        5230 by: James Duncan

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>-----Original Message-----
>From: phobo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 9:48 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: [PHP-WIN] Random Code
>
>
>Oops, 36^8 :)
>
>This value would only have to generated perhaps a few times an hour, but
>should't take more than a second to compute. These values ARE being stored
>in a database; however, once this database gets to a million or so rows, it
>would take a very long time to check it doesn't overlap, wont it?

I don't belive it will take seconds to look up the result (that would be
very bad performance of the RDBMS then...) If you just index the data
properly, then most time probably will be spent transferring the answer over
the network (that is if you use a network:). If your time constraints is
within a second, and you do not need to generate the numbers more often than
a few times in a hour, then why not do it?

I have a table (among others) with 3.368.713 rows in my database. This is an
execute example of an look up onto an attribute with an index in the
database:

I executed this query:

select getdate()
select count(*)
from luAccNr
where AccNr = 'X02612'
select getdate()

The result:

-------------------------- 
2001-01-26 12:14:24.717

(1 row(s) affected)

pkAccNr     AccNr            Speice 
----------- ---------------- ------ 
629888      X02612           1

(1 row(s) affected)

                            
--------------------------- 
2001-01-26 12:14:24.763

(1 row(s) affected)


As you can see, the execution time for the query is not even a question of
tenth of second, but down to about 50ms. And this includes to execute the
getdate() functions too.

Best regards,
Anders




I hope you aren't serious... You ain't gonna get 36^8 possible code values in no

website database, no how... even as a bit map string, over 300GB is required
just for the data.
~~LF

"Asendorf, John" wrote:

> "These values ARE being stored
> in a database; however, once this database gets to a million or so rows, it
> would take a very long time to check it doesn't overlap, wont it?"
>
> Well, you **could** make a database of ALL possibilities and delete each
> possibility as it is used  :)  Then the program would run faster and faster
> and you could tell people you've been tweaking the code while it's actually
> running faster all on its own  :)
>
> ---------------------
> John Asendorf - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Web Applications Developer
> http://www.lcounty.com - NEW FEATURES ADDED DAILY!
> Licking County, Ohio, USA
> 740-349-3631
>
> The benefit to the government of replacing all $1 Federal Reserve notes with
> $1 coins would be $522.2 million per year, according to estimates of the
> General Accouting Office released on April 7, 2000.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: phobo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 3:48 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [PHP-WIN] Random Code
> >
> >
> > Oops, 36^8 :)
> >
> > This value would only have to generated perhaps a few times
> > an hour, but
> > should't take more than a second to compute. These values ARE
> > being stored
> > in a database; however, once this database gets to a million
> > or so rows, it
> > would take a very long time to check it doesn't overlap, wont it?
> >
> > I also thought about getting the current date/time stamp and
> > representing it
> > as this value. This code is an online-order reference number,
> > so it could be
> > something like seconds since midnight:
> >
> > 36^4 = 1,679,616
> > Seconds in a day (60.60.24) = 86400
> >
> > A really effective way would be to get a subsecond count for
> > the day; so
> > that 0000 is midnight, and ZZZZ is the end of the that day.
> > This means there
> > are about 19 increments a second, which rules out any possibility of
> > duplicates, because:
> >
> > 1. two other characters could be the id of the user (a
> > numeric value). 36.36
> > is 33696, which is much higher than the intended number of
> > users on the
> > system (we invisage no more than a few hundred - by the time
> > the userbase
> > gets to 33000, I'll be a millionairre and this can be someone
> > else's job
> > hehe)
> >
> > 2. the two remaining characters could be a day/year thing.
> > perhaps the days
> > since the start of the year 2000. 33696/365 is 92; this
> > system will not be
> > used for 92 years!
> >
> > Does that sound like quite a good algorythm, or do you have a
> > much easier,
> > simpler way?
> >
> > Siggy
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Larry Forrister" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 7:26 AM
> > Subject: Re: [PHP-WIN] Random Code
> >
> >
> > > Do you mean  W3E4-22ER  would be valid?  If so there would be 36^8
> > > (2,821,109,907,456) possible values.
> > >
> > > A truly random generator algorithm cannot guarantee uniqueness.  I'm
> > > guessing what you want is to generate each possible value once in a
> > > pseudo-random order.  Would just apparent randomness suffice?
> > >
> > > With what frequency do the values need to be generated?
> > Once every few
> > > seconds/minutes or multiple times per second?
> > > ~~LF
> > >
> > >
> > > Sigurd Magnusson wrote:
> > >
> > > > Whats the best way to make a completely random, unique code in the
> > > > format "ABCD-1234" where each of the 8 characters can be
> > alphanumerc;
> > > > 0-9,A-Z... I thought about generating a 36^4 number,
> > converting to to
> > > > base '36', and repeating the process. What's a good way
> > to ensure the
> > > > code is not repeated, though?
> > > >
> > > > Siggy
> > >
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Why does randomness even enter into the picture?  Why not...
    user_id    char(2)
    year       int   <-- use all four digits, don't create another Y2K
thing...
    day        int   <-- or week
    serial     int   <-- would be reset every day/week or whatever
~~LF


phobo wrote:

> Nah the values are being stored in a transaction log type thing ...
>
> Siggy
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Asendorf, John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "phobo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 10:00 AM
> Subject: RE: [PHP-WIN] Random Code
>
> > "These values ARE being stored
> > in a database; however, once this database gets to a million or so rows,
> it
> > would take a very long time to check it doesn't overlap, wont it?"
> >
> > Well, you **could** make a database of ALL possibilities and delete each
> > possibility as it is used  :)  Then the program would run faster and
> faster
> > and you could tell people you've been tweaking the code while it's
> actually
> > running faster all on its own  :)
> >
> > ---------------------
> > John Asendorf - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Web Applications Developer
> > http://www.lcounty.com - NEW FEATURES ADDED DAILY!
> > Licking County, Ohio, USA
> > 740-349-3631
> >
> > The benefit to the government of replacing all $1 Federal Reserve notes
> with
> > $1 coins would be $522.2 million per year, according to estimates of the
> > General Accouting Office released on April 7, 2000.
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: phobo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 3:48 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: [PHP-WIN] Random Code
> > >
> > >
> > > Oops, 36^8 :)
> > >
> > > This value would only have to generated perhaps a few times
> > > an hour, but
> > > should't take more than a second to compute. These values ARE
> > > being stored
> > > in a database; however, once this database gets to a million
> > > or so rows, it
> > > would take a very long time to check it doesn't overlap, wont it?
> > >
> > > I also thought about getting the current date/time stamp and
> > > representing it
> > > as this value. This code is an online-order reference number,
> > > so it could be
> > > something like seconds since midnight:
> > >
> > > 36^4 = 1,679,616
> > > Seconds in a day (60.60.24) = 86400
> > >
> > > A really effective way would be to get a subsecond count for
> > > the day; so
> > > that 0000 is midnight, and ZZZZ is the end of the that day.
> > > This means there
> > > are about 19 increments a second, which rules out any possibility of
> > > duplicates, because:
> > >
> > > 1. two other characters could be the id of the user (a
> > > numeric value). 36.36
> > > is 33696, which is much higher than the intended number of
> > > users on the
> > > system (we invisage no more than a few hundred - by the time
> > > the userbase
> > > gets to 33000, I'll be a millionairre and this can be someone
> > > else's job
> > > hehe)
> > >
> > > 2. the two remaining characters could be a day/year thing.
> > > perhaps the days
> > > since the start of the year 2000. 33696/365 is 92; this
> > > system will not be
> > > used for 92 years!
> > >
> > > Does that sound like quite a good algorythm, or do you have a
> > > much easier,
> > > simpler way?
> > >
> > > Siggy
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Larry Forrister" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 7:26 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [PHP-WIN] Random Code
> > >
> > >
> > > > Do you mean  W3E4-22ER  would be valid?  If so there would be 36^8
> > > > (2,821,109,907,456) possible values.
> > > >
> > > > A truly random generator algorithm cannot guarantee uniqueness.  I'm
> > > > guessing what you want is to generate each possible value once in a
> > > > pseudo-random order.  Would just apparent randomness suffice?
> > > >
> > > > With what frequency do the values need to be generated?
> > > Once every few
> > > > seconds/minutes or multiple times per second?
> > > > ~~LF
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Sigurd Magnusson wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Whats the best way to make a completely random, unique code in the
> > > > > format "ABCD-1234" where each of the 8 characters can be
> > > alphanumerc;
> > > > > 0-9,A-Z... I thought about generating a 36^4 number,
> > > converting to to
> > > > > base '36', and repeating the process. What's a good way
> > > to ensure the
> > > > > code is not repeated, though?
> > > > >
> > > > > Siggy
> > > >
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For all of you asking me...

It was most certainly a joke... that's what the :) smiley faces were for...

---------------------
John Asendorf - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web Applications Developer
http://www.lcounty.com - NEW FEATURES ADDED DAILY!
Licking County, Ohio, USA
740-349-3631

The benefit to the government of replacing all $1 Federal Reserve notes with
$1 coins would be $522.2 million per year, according to estimates of the
General Accouting Office released on April 7, 2000.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry Forrister [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 3:03 PM
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [PHP-WIN] Random Code
> 
> 
> I hope you aren't serious... You ain't gonna get 36^8 
> possible code values in no
> 
> website database, no how... even as a bit map string, over 
> 300GB is required
> just for the data.
> ~~LF
> 
> "Asendorf, John" wrote:
> 
> > "These values ARE being stored
> > in a database; however, once this database gets to a 
> million or so rows, it
> > would take a very long time to check it doesn't overlap, wont it?"
> >
> > Well, you **could** make a database of ALL possibilities 
> and delete each
> > possibility as it is used  :)  Then the program would run 
> faster and faster
> > and you could tell people you've been tweaking the code 
> while it's actually
> > running faster all on its own  :)
> >
> > ---------------------
> > John Asendorf - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Web Applications Developer
> > http://www.lcounty.com - NEW FEATURES ADDED DAILY!
> > Licking County, Ohio, USA
> > 740-349-3631
> >
> > The benefit to the government of replacing all $1 Federal 
> Reserve notes with
> > $1 coins would be $522.2 million per year, according to 
> estimates of the
> > General Accouting Office released on April 7, 2000.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: phobo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 3:48 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: [PHP-WIN] Random Code
> > >
> > >
> > > Oops, 36^8 :)
> > >
> > > This value would only have to generated perhaps a few times
> > > an hour, but
> > > should't take more than a second to compute. These values ARE
> > > being stored
> > > in a database; however, once this database gets to a million
> > > or so rows, it
> > > would take a very long time to check it doesn't overlap, wont it?
> > >
> > > I also thought about getting the current date/time stamp and
> > > representing it
> > > as this value. This code is an online-order reference number,
> > > so it could be
> > > something like seconds since midnight:
> > >
> > > 36^4 = 1,679,616
> > > Seconds in a day (60.60.24) = 86400
> > >
> > > A really effective way would be to get a subsecond count for
> > > the day; so
> > > that 0000 is midnight, and ZZZZ is the end of the that day.
> > > This means there
> > > are about 19 increments a second, which rules out any 
> possibility of
> > > duplicates, because:
> > >
> > > 1. two other characters could be the id of the user (a
> > > numeric value). 36.36
> > > is 33696, which is much higher than the intended number of
> > > users on the
> > > system (we invisage no more than a few hundred - by the time
> > > the userbase
> > > gets to 33000, I'll be a millionairre and this can be someone
> > > else's job
> > > hehe)
> > >
> > > 2. the two remaining characters could be a day/year thing.
> > > perhaps the days
> > > since the start of the year 2000. 33696/365 is 92; this
> > > system will not be
> > > used for 92 years!
> > >
> > > Does that sound like quite a good algorythm, or do you have a
> > > much easier,
> > > simpler way?
> > >
> > > Siggy
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Larry Forrister" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 7:26 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [PHP-WIN] Random Code
> > >
> > >
> > > > Do you mean  W3E4-22ER  would be valid?  If so there 
> would be 36^8
> > > > (2,821,109,907,456) possible values.
> > > >
> > > > A truly random generator algorithm cannot guarantee 
> uniqueness.  I'm
> > > > guessing what you want is to generate each possible 
> value once in a
> > > > pseudo-random order.  Would just apparent randomness suffice?
> > > >
> > > > With what frequency do the values need to be generated?
> > > Once every few
> > > > seconds/minutes or multiple times per second?
> > > > ~~LF
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Sigurd Magnusson wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Whats the best way to make a completely random, 
> unique code in the
> > > > > format "ABCD-1234" where each of the 8 characters can be
> > > alphanumerc;
> > > > > 0-9,A-Z... I thought about generating a 36^4 number,
> > > converting to to
> > > > > base '36', and repeating the process. What's a good way
> > > to ensure the
> > > > > code is not repeated, though?
> > > > >
> > > > > Siggy
> > > >
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At 10:29 25/01/01 +0000, Tom Mathews wrote:

>This issue cropped up with us a little while ago, but in a slightly different
>context.
>We have documents that are created using Word (PC users) and FrameMaker (die
>hard Unix users that do not want anyone else to be able to edit their work
>without first taking a degree in pontlessness). All of these documents need to
>be accessed by everyone over the intranet using a variety of O/S's and
>browsers.
>The solution - a 'pdf printer' function. You can either buy acrobat / 
>distiller
>or some such, or if you're feeling energetic you can write your own, but don't
>try this lightly (I wrote a PostScript printer driver from scratch in a former
>life and spent about a year writing 20,000 lines of C code). Whatever you
>choose, just run this whenever a document is uploaded and then create a 
>link to
>the pdf file (and if you don't want to edit it again, you can also delete the
>original at this point). I've not yet found a browser or OS that you can't get
>a decent pdf reader working with, as opposed to the word reader that NetScape
>kindly crashes everytime that you try and use it (and don't think that you 
>will
>get away with telling people to download the minute either - NetScape has a
>nasty habbit of changing all the carriage returns into line feeds when you
>donwload from a Unix hosted site to a PC, which means that you can't use the
>doc when you get it onto your PC)
>
>Minutes are one of the applications that we use this technique for - the group
>all write them in Word and then throw them at the upload filter which
>automatically creates the pdf and a link to this.

Hi Tom,

I was wondering what sort of solution you (and other list members) use for 
the Word to PDF conversion? I've been looking at adding this as an extra 
feature for our clients (clubs) to upload their monthly newsletters for 
members to download/read. There's no way I'm going to allow them to post 
Word documents (problems with fonts, and more importantly if anyone spreads 
a Doc with a macro virus in it, I'll be the one who personally gets 
blamed), and unfortunately getting people to save as a different format 
from Word isn't much of an option either (they use graphics for headlines, 
and in some cases it's too hard to explain to them how to save as a 
different file format).

Obviously Acrobat Distiller seems to be the way to go, although all the 
pages on the Adobe site mention using some form of GUI-based conversion 
(usually for dragging and dropping files, or using it from within Word), 
plus then I could run into expensive issues with licensing (not really 
something I'd look forward to since this wouldn't create a single cent in 
revenue for us).

Any suggestions or examples of how people in here are doing such 
conversions would be greatly appreciated :)

Thanks,

Angus.





Hi Guys

I am using php4 in windows NT.  We are using an Microsoft Exchange server for handling 
mails. When I used mail function in my code, it is sending the mail correctly, but the 
receipient's mail box (Microsoft Outlook) shows the sent field as incorrect date and 
time. It is showing the other fields (From, Subject,..) O.K. Can any body tell me how 
how to show the correct sent date/time in the receipient's sent field.

My Code: 

    $to = [EMAIL PROTECTED];
    $headers = "From: " . [EMAIL PROTECTED] . "\n";
    $subject = "Exam Results";
    $body = "BlahBlah" ;
    mail($to, $subject, $body, $headers); 

Thanks

Yours
Clark




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Tom:

I'm having the same problem using the CGI version of PHP, but if you
install it as an Apache Module, the problem goes away.

Saludos,

Pablo
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

Friday, January 26, 2001, 9:00:46 AM, Tom wrote:

TM> I've just installed PHP 4-04pl1 on a new NT/Apache box and can't
TM> remember how to turn off the very irritating
TM> "X-Powered-By: PHP/4.0.4pl1 Content-type: text/html "
TM> message that appears at the top of any script generated page.

TM> Can anyone please remind me how to get rid of this.

TM> Cheers

TM> Tom






Comment out line 113 (or thereabouts) of your php.ini file. That
should do the trick.

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[Pablo]
> Tom:

> I'm having the same problem using the CGI version of PHP, but if you
> install it as an Apache Module, the problem goes away.

> Saludos,

> Pablo
> _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

> Friday, January 26, 2001, 9:00:46 AM, Tom wrote:

TM>> I've just installed PHP 4-04pl1 on a new NT/Apache box and can't
TM>> remember how to turn off the very irritating
TM>> "X-Powered-By: PHP/4.0.4pl1 Content-type: text/html "
TM>> message that appears at the top of any script generated page.

TM>> Can anyone please remind me how to get rid of this.

TM>> Cheers

TM>> Tom






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Is there a Jabber module available for PHP that performs the same functions
as the module Net::Jabber does for Perl?

Thanks

James



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