It's not PHP vs. DOM. It's XML (DOM) vs. (bad) HTML. PHP just
provides you with an interface to an XML parser.
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At 01:14 14.1. 2001, James Duncan wrote the following:
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>Yikes. I'm just reading more about DOM and PHP at the moment on the
>PHPBuilder website.
>
>Does anyone have a version of PHP complied with DOM support included for
>Windows (I'm developing on a Windows system before moving it over to Linux -
>RedHat)?
>
>So loading any old web page and trying to construct a DOM document from it
>via PHP isn't going to work? How does IE v5 manage to parse the same web
>page correctly (or what seems to be correctly)? I've already read in the DOM
>table node elements #text and their values via Javascript in IE.
>
>Still learning lots ;)
>
>Thanks
>
>James
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Cynic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: 14 January 2001 00:07
>To: James Duncan; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: [PHP-WIN] DOM
>
>I should warn you that XML functions require the document to be
>very 'correct'. Most (I guess 98%... I wish browsers weren't so
>forgiving, all might've been much easier and better) of HTML
>pages on the internet basically aren't HTML (which is a son of
>SGML, and an older, heavily cripled brother of XML), and even
>strict HTML isn't XML compliant up to XHTML 1.0, which is the
>latest version of HTML, fully XML compliant.
>If you'll try to load such document into an XML parser, it'll
>die with an error message, because XML requires the document
>to be well-formed.
>
>At 00:54 14.1. 2001, James Duncan wrote the following:
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>>Ah rite... thanks for the info. As I said I'm very new to all of this and
>>reading lots, whilst trying to make sense of it all ;) So it is possible to
>>use PHP to access DOM elements (via the XML DOM library) created from an
>>HTML source file (a code example would be very handy)? Does anyone know if
>>an XML parser will be built into PHP in the future? I then assume I could
>>access DOM elements from an HTML file in the same easy way as I can via
>>Javascript in IE?
>>
>>Thanks
>>
>>James
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Cynic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>Sent: 13 January 2001 23:22
>>To: James Duncan; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: RE: [PHP-WIN] DOM
>>
>>You don't understand the basic concept.
>>
>>DOM (Document Object Model) is a tree representing the structure
>>of a document, where the elements (logically separated parts of)
>>content is enclosed within tags to allow for computerized
>>processing. IE exposes it's own version of DOM through its
>>implementations of JS. If you want to access and manipulate a HTML
>>document in PHP using this tree-like abstraction (DOM), you will
>>have to use XML DOM library. No XML parser is an integral part of
>>the language.
>>
>>
>>At 18:20 13.1. 2001, James Duncan wrote the following:
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>>>I don't think this will work in my case because I don't control the layout
>>>of the HTML page and hence can't add the hidden fields. I'm downloading
>the
>>>HTML pages from a website. It would require as much work to insert the
>>>hidden fields as trying to strip the HTML tags in an attempt to read the
>>>data directly from the HTML page itself. There must be a way to access the
>>>DOM directly from PHP? I notice in the manual there is a section regarding
>>>XML DOM but not the DOM itself.
>>>
>>>Are the DOM values only available on the client? If that's the case then
>>PHP
>>>can't be used to read them because it's limited to the server side?
>>>
>>>Thanks
>>>
>>>James
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Michael Stearne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>>Sent: 13 January 2001 17:06
>>>To: James Duncan
>>>Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>Subject: Re: [PHP-WIN] DOM
>>>
>>>Could you do something like:
>>>
>>>myForm.myField.value=tablejames.firstChild.childNodes[1].childNodes[4].fir
>s
>>t
>>>Child.firstChild.node Value;
>>>
>>>Set up a form of hidden fields. Extract the values from the DOM and then
>>>have the user hit a Submit button to get to the next page. At that point
>>>the values that were collected and put into the hidden form fields will be
>>>submitted and you next page (the PHP page) could INSERT the values into
>the
>>>database,
>>>
>>>Michael
>>>
>>>
>>>On Friday, January 12, 2001, at 07:30 PM, James Duncan wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>
>>>> I'm still new to HTML, Javascript and PHP but learning (fast hopefully).
>>>> I've just started accessing DOM elements. I have worked out how to
>update
>>>> the contents of table cells directly using this method, etc. In
>>Javascript
>>>I
>>>> would use code like:
>>>>
>>>> alert("Value is: " +
>>>>
>>>tablejames.firstChild.childNodes[1].childNodes[4].firstChild.firstChild.no
>d
>>e
>>>> Name);
>>>> alert("Value is: " +
>>>>
>>>tablejames.firstChild.childNodes[1].childNodes[5].firstChild.firstChild.no
>d
>>e
>>>> Value);
>>>>
>>>> This Javascript shows the name and value of the child element.
>>>>
>>>> Now I want to use PHP to extract data (values) from HTML pages like I do
>>>> with the above Javascript. Is this possible? Obviously with the
>>Javascript
>>>> the HTML page has already been rendered in the browser (i.e. all tree
>>>> elements have been created). This makes extracting data a simple case of
>>>> finding the "#text" elements and reading in the values. Can I do the
>same
>>>> thing with PHP and an HTML file I've downloaded from the Internet?
>>>Obviously
>>>> this file is sitting on my server and hasn't been rendered in a
>>browser...
>>>>
>>>> The whole point of this exercise is so that I can extract values from an
>>>> HTML table and populate them into a database. Maybe it's easier to
>>process
>>>> the HTML file line by line and strip the unwanted HTML tags? However,
>>with
>>>> this approach I've got to hardcode each webpage...
>>>>
>>>> If this is a silly question then sorry but you only learn if you ask ;)
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> James
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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