Lester Caine wrote:

JupiterHost.Net wrote:

Please use the email address in the list-unsubscribe header of each message from the list for this request instead of spamming all the subscribers (who BTW can't subscribe or unsubscribe anyone since they are not list admins)


JupiterHost - the PROBLEM is that the unsubscribe facility simply does not work a lot of the time. So what is needed *IS* someone who can sort

No what is needed is for them to contact the site not the list, or at the very least explain:

 - I've tried this address, its just bounces
 - I've tried this url and never get a confirmation
 - i do this and get that, etc etc

instead of YELLING at me twenty times to take him off the list when I have no power too.

*Thats* what irks me :)

the mess out. Many of the lists BOUNCE messages to the unsubscribe and to admin rather than processing them, so the ONLY way of accessing is via the list itself.

Or the url of the list, or the webmaster of the site instead of the *subscribers*

So rather than adding to the spam, perhaps you could contribute an alternative method by which people *CAN* unsubscribe.

1) try these first:
  a) list-unsubscribe header

  b) the form at http://www.php.net/mailing-lists.php


  c) http://www.php.net/mailing-lists.php :

If you have trouble getting off from any of our mailing lists, or would like to unsubscribe from a mailing list not listed here, we have more information for you on the unsubscription page.

the "unsubscription page" is a link to http://www.php.net/unsub.php with lots of swell info

  d) http://www.php.net/contact.php

2) if #1 failed, post to the list outlining the results of 1.a - 1.d INSTEAD of a mindless YELLING spam to all the subscribers :)

Also to go along with step 2:

At the very bottom of http://www.php.net/unsub.php it says this:

"If you are receiving mail from one of the mailing lists, there should be absolutely no reason that you would be unable to unsubscribe yourself from the list, except for your ability to follow these directions. However, if you find yourself unable to unsubscribe from the mailing list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Make sure to include the complete headers from one of the messages you have received from the mailing list. Keep in mind that there's a human being at the other end of that last email address, so you'll have to be patient."

So, I hope you find that helpful and urge anyone who is having issues to RTFM instead of spamming a list in an unreasonable and clueless manner so that I have to read it to you :)

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