Why not just use a form with nothing but a button?
<form action="pagetogoto" method="get">
<input type="submit" value="Button text" />
</form>

Sunfire wrote:

i do have something about the fact that this web site is "user friendly" or
not.. and so does the other person that i work with.  we tried to tell him
that a link would look just fine there and everybody could use it even with
very old browsers (if ther are any out there).  we also told him for
accessability reasons (for screen readers for the blind0) buttons that run
from gava or javascript wouldnt work in every situation that came to his web
site and that what we are trying to do is make the page usable by
"everybody" .. well he said basically that this web site isnt being used for
"everybody" and it is only used for pastors that need somewhere to go and
get info and relief from problems they might have and dont want to tell
people in their church about it.

told him that he cant predict every thing out there and maybe a blind or
some other disabled pastor came over to his site.. well.. with so many
graphical things on the page (table borders dark color on dark color
background color) buttons java based graphics that move around and all that
nifty stuff..  he basically told me if i want his "$40" to write this prayer
request board of his then i will do what he says or we dont get to do
anymore with the whole site at all..


well im sort of confused now... what is reasonable price for this client to pay anyways? i mean $40 for like 3 or so hours of work doing html/php/sql for this board..?? i heard of people getting a heck of a lot more than that before but i wouldnt know right at this point since the person that i work for told me i was going to get paid $30/hour for php/sql.. fine but $15 an hour for each language? heck no (at least i dont think so anyways) maybe $30 an hour each for a newbie so if a script had php and sql it would be $60/hour not $30

oh well sorry if i vented and dumped on you all (didnt intend on it but just
happened i guess) but let me know what you all think and if there are any
better ideas that can be done here...

really i am a newbie at php/sql and dont know what is reasonable for being
paid.. $30/hour just sounds good but i heard i could do lots better..


let me know]]




----- Original Message -----
From: "- Edwin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Sunfire" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 8:43 PM
Subject: Re: [PHP] <button> and </button>




"Sunfire" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



this is true i guess but he doesnt want an image that looks
like a button he wants a 100% true authentic button that is
depressed when you click it and if the image doesnt move when


? You can make something that can be "depressed" with just
images--only you have to use javascript to make it work...



you click on it he will throw a 600% royal fit and none the
less he doesnt really care if people with no java support can
or cant get to his site .. that is more the less their problem
to figure out not mine or his...

guess you have to make everybody happy somehow when making web
sites and stuff...


Sounds like you and you're client are not at all concerned about
the *visitors* of your website. Who is going to use the site
anyway? I hope you're client understands the term "user-friendly".
..



but i tested a browser with java support turned on and one with
it turned off and from what i could see they both worked with
the button i have (and my client should be very impressed since
the button actually depresses when you click it or hit enter on
it)..


Java and javascript are different--please don't confuse the two...
try it again and see if it'll work with JAVASCRIPT turned off...

- E

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