On Wed, 13 Nov 2002, Manuel Lemos wrote:
> On 11/13/2002 04:11 PM, Jeff Hatcher wrote:
>  > At PHP-CON most of the presenters were using a presentation tool
>  > built in PHP. It would convert html to PDF and several other cool
>  > functions. Is anyone familiar with this and where I can find it? If
>  > not, does anyone one know of a conversion tool built in php that
>  > converts html to PDF? I am fully aware of the pdf-lib. This is not
>  > what I am looking for.
>
> I suppose that is Rasmus presentation tool.
>
> Personally, last time that I loook, I found that tool limited and
> inadequate for most people's needs.

Of course you do.

> One problem is that it is dependent on that you must serve the
> presentation from a server that has PHP installed. This is bad because
> if you want to provide just the HTML pages to the people for download,
> you can't do it with Rasmus tool. I believe that this is good for Rasmus
> presentations because he can show some PHP features interactively but
> most people (that does not present PHP specific things) does not need that.

You can generate plain html pages from it.

> Another problem is that Rasmus tool lack from single stepping bulleted
> lists. This means that if you have a slide with a bulleted list, it will
> show the whole slide at once. This distracts the audience that instead
> of paying attention to the speaker, they start reading the whole slide.

Nope, it does bullet-by-bullet rendering.  It will either slide in each
bullet or just instantly pop each one up on each key press.

> It also generates a table of contents page that shows the list of all
> slides divided in presentation sections. Table of contents can be
> accessed by clicking on the top title in the any presentation page. Here
> is an example:

So does does my presentation tool.

And yes, this thing is very geared for live and interactive presentations,
but it doesn't exclude other common features.  Personally I find static
bullet-point slides extremely painful to sit through.  Show me some code,
show me the result and show me how different inputs or small code changes
affect that result.

-Rasmus


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