"I probably should've used the term "static" from the beginning." <- maybe

The mistake is mine not yours. I know about the :: operator I use it all the
time (but within classes parent::function() etc) - but I never realised
until now that PHP will let you use any class before instantiation (and
nearly all my PHP work uses classes). I have never even attempted to try it
because in all other languages I know trying to use an ordinary class before
instantiation will just result in a null pointer error or the equivalent of
one.

PHP OOP is different I know, one big example is that there is no provision
for data encapsulation - one of the main objectives of OOP, neither can you
differentiate between types of classes/methods (which is probably what is
causing the confusion).

Now it seems it is even more different than I thought. All I can say is
mmhh.......

Debbie

----- Original Message -----
From: "Nick Eby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Debbie Dyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 7:53 PM
Subject: Re: [PHP] Inheritance and a class function: on what class was it
called?


> when you call a function with ->, you must call it on an object
($c->foo(),
> for example).  the function is termed an "object function" when used that
> way.  php has an operator :: that enables that same function to be called
> without a specific object; in this case, I'm referring to it as a "class"
> function.  another term for this is usually "static" function.  any
function
> of a class can be called in both ways.  the only catch is that, when
called
> as a class function, the function can't in turn call any functions on
$this
> or a fatal error will result.
>
> sorry this is so confusing, I probably should've used the term "static"
from
> the beginning.
>
> /nick
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Debbie Dyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Nick Eby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 11:33 AM
> Subject: Re: [PHP] Inheritance and a class function: on what class was it
> called?
>
>
> > I dont understand what you are saying then or what you are trying to do.
> >
> > How can you call C::foo() outside of a class? You access class functions
> > externally with ->
> >
> > Debbie
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Nick Eby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 7:24 PM
> > Subject: Re: [PHP] Inheritance and a class function: on what class was
it
> > called?
> >
> >
> > > not quite... the case I'm interested in is this, given your example:
> > >
> > > print C::foo();
> > >
> > > which would print nothing, unfortunately, since when the function is
> > called
> > > using the :: operator there is no $this variable.  basically what I'm
> > > looking for is a replacement for get_class($this) when the function is
> > > called using ::
> > >
> > > thanks
> > >
> > > /nick
> > >
> > > "Debbie Dyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > 054c01c26a3f$34f6d230$de093c3e@homepc">news:054c01c26a3f$34f6d230$de093c3e@homepc...
> > > > I think I know what you mean. You could get it to return the name of
> the
> > > > class.
> > > >
> > > > eg.
> > > >
> > > > class A {
> > > >     function foo () {
> > > >       return get_class($this);
> > > >     }
> > > > }
> > > > class B extends A {
> > > > }
> > > > class C extends A {
> > > > }
> > > >
> > > >   $a = new A();
> > > >   $b = new B();
> > > >   $c = new C();
> > > >   print $a->foo();
> > > >   print $b->foo();
> > > >   print $c->foo();
> > > >
> > > > Is this what you mean?
> > > >
> > > > Debbie
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Nick Eby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 6:29 PM
> > > > Subject: [PHP] Inheritance and a class function: on what class was
it
> > > > called?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Assume you've got some class that has one or more classes
inherited
> > from
> > > > it.
> > > > > The parent class has a function that is normally called using the
::
> > > > > operator (a class function).  Assume also that the class function
is
> > > never
> > > > > called from an object function.  Is it possible to find if the
class
> > > > > function was called on the parent class, or on the child class?
> > > > >
> > > > > example:
> > > > > Class A has a function foo(), callable by A::foo(). Class B
extends
> A.
> > > If
> > > > > outside code makes the call B::foo(), can you tell from within
foo()
> > > that
> > > > > the function was called on B and not A?
> > > > >
> > > > > I think this is impossible but I want to confirm that suspicion.
> It's
> > > > > important that the call B::foo() isn't made from inside any object
> > > > function,
> > > > > so that there's no context for the $this variable; the get_class()
> > > > function
> > > > > isn't applicable.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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