on 17/08/02 12:22 PM, Jason Wong ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

> It's a bit harsh to say it's not a real solution just because it relies on
> some specifics. There's no harm in taking advantage of your situation and use
> whatever resources you can to complete your job.

True.  Point taken :)


> I run a qmail server. When I send out newsletters, I run a query and extract
> the mailing addresses I need. Then I build a .qmail file (similar to
> sendmail's alias file), and finally I send mail to that .qmail (alias). The
> mail is queued once and all recipients listed in the .qmail file gets a copy.
> It is a solution that works for me so don't tell me that that is a virtual
> solution :)

nice!!

> The fact is that a solution that relies solely on PHP would probably be too
> slow, unreliable and messy.

True.


>> Simple fact is that a LOT of PHP
>> programmers are on shared servers, and their hosts would NOT want 50,000
>> emails queued up on disk.  No way!!
> 
> But you would have 50,000 mails going out anyway regardless of what solution
> you come up with. You mentioned sparklist in previous posts. Assuming that
> they allow customised mailings, how would you get 50,000 pieces of info to
> them so that they can perform the mailing?

The difference with sparklist over running something on a shared host is
that Sparklist is a dedicated mailinglist company, so their servers are
geared up for this one task.  The problem with aiming to achieve this is on
a shared server with 100-200 other websites is that the server is geared
towards hosting sites, not bulk mail.

Given a dedicated server, all is well, but my *guess* is that many of the
developers on here are on shared servers (at least those in the
newbie-beginner-intermediate levels).

I haven't looked into sparklist too heavily... US$50/month is a little
steep.  Their minimum per month is 50,000 emails, and i'm likely to only
send 1000-2000, but they do offer customised emails.


>> I'd expect doing this frequently on a shared server would be the fastest
>> way to get your account shut down.
> 
> I would recommend getting a dedicated server. They start from USD100/month and
> can easily cope with 10-20 sites so cost per site is only $5-10. Of course
> that opens another can of worms because you would have to deal with server
> administration etc.


This will be something i look into over the next year.  I have about 15
sites hosted on a reseller account... it'd be nice to move them into my own
server when the $'s add up... (haven't seen much in the way of dedicated
servers for under US$300 though...).


Justin French



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