On Fri, 14 Jun 2002, Manuel Lemos wrote:
> I would say that the long standing users are even more aware that they 
> should not turn off Javascript because they are experienced enough to 
> know that some sites of their preference do not work right without 
> Javascript.
> 
> I believe that users that disable Javascript just for a short period 
> because soon or later they realize that it is their loss. Users that 
> keep Javascript disable for a long time are not being smart, they are 
> just being stubborn. Soon or later they realize that being stubborn is 
> masochism.

I keep JavaScript off most of the time. This state of affairs has gone on
for about 5 years now (in the 4 years I was using the web prior to that,
it wasn't enough of a nuisance to worry about) and I haven't yet realized
I'm stubborn (though maybe that's the problem).

I don't know of any major sites that require it - even Microsoft's own
MSNBC works fine with scripting disabled. Only four types of sites require
JavaScript, in my experience:

1) Really flashy or otherwise non-transactional sales sites like car 
companies and movie studios.

2) Transactional sites that are a first effort. Eventually the company 
either abandons the JavaScript requirement (Amazon, eBay, etc.) or goes 
out of business. Not that JavaScript drove them out of business, but it's 
symptomatic of a general lack of understanding of the web world.

3) Gee-whiz sites by web developers who are trying to show off their 
prowess.

4) Moronic amateurish sites commissioned by small business owners who 
don't understand the web and think users will like them better if their 
site has every single available gimmick (marquee text in the status bar, 
music playing while you visit the site, etc.). They pay $100 for the site 
plus $20 per gimmick, and they get what they paid for.

miguel


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