I think the point here is that I'm right and you're wrong *JUST JOKING!*

Seriously you're absolutely right, a PHP script can not activate a
Javascript function.  What I'm saying (and what I wanted the original
poster to understand) is that a PHP script CAN send input to a
Javascript, and based on that input run a specific function.  A
Javascript can activate a PHP function in the same way.  So in this way
a Javascript and a PHP script can in fact communicate. (please note the
preceeding "a" before the words Javascript and PHP.. we're not talking
about the languages here only the physical scripts, because we could be
talking about any two interpreted languages).

*phew* Are we done yet?  I really need to get back to work.  LOL  :D
-Kevin

-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Lopucki [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 10:51 AM
To: Kevin Stone; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [PHP] Calling Javascript-function from php-script ...

I think the point here is that it be made clear to those who might get 
confused that the javascript (unless it's a server-side script) is
running in 
a browser and as such there is no way for the server to 'make a call to
it by 
URL.'  The Javascript can call the server but the server-side PHP script

cannot call the client.  Therefore, no PHP script can 'call' a
javascript 
function.


On Wednesday 20 March 2002 12:44 pm, Kevin Stone wrote:
> I'm not quite sure what you mean...  If Javascript were disabled then
> this whole argument would be moot.  Since our method requires
Javascript
> to properly function we're really not interested in that particular
> situation.  :)
>
> There are two ways a PHP script (or any scripting language for that
> matter) can send input to a Javascript.  One, by dynamically
generating
> a local Javascript with the lines of code necessary to perform a
certain
> task.  Two, by sending information through the URL string to a remote
> Javascript which runs functions based on that information.
>
> Classic Input/Output.  It doesn't matter where the input is coming
from
> so long as the program gets what is expecting.  So in this sense the
two
> unrelated programs (one server side, one client side) are
communicating,
> just not directly.
>
> Bottom line is the method works so I don't understand what there is to
> debate.  See here for a working example....
>
> http://www.helpelf.com/fetch_data.html
>
> It's not very sophisticated yet (all the junk left in the URL, et al).
> But it does what I'm talking about.  You can copy & paste this
> Javascript into any web page and it'll return the same database
> information gathered by the PHP script.
> -Kevin
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alexander Skwar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 4:27 PM
> To: Kevin Stone
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [PHP] Calling Javascript-function from php-script ...
>
> >Kevin Stone< sagte am 2002-03-19 um 14:11:42 -0700 :
> > Not entirely true.  Javascript is directly linked to HTML and HTML
is
> > directly linked to PHP so you can have PHP talk to Javascript
through
> > HTML.
>
> I still don't agree.  You can of course create JavaScripts dynamically
> in PHP.  However, PHP won't talk to JS, it's the browser which will
> execute the dynamically created JS and then maybe talk back to the
> server and thus execute some PHP code.  This may seem like nitpicking,
> but I don't think it is.  If PHP were to execute the JS, it would work
> even when the user had disabled JS in his browser.
>
> Alexander Skwar

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