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* On 19-01-02 at 11:31 * Christopher William Wesley said.... > On Sat, 19 Jan 2002, Shane Wright wrote: > > > Maybe this list should be split - kindof into a php-newbies and a > > php-advanced ? > > So all the newbies can help all the newbies, and all the advanced people > can help the advanced people? That wouldn't work out. All the newbies > would subscribe to the advanced list, and advanced users who like helping > newbies would subscribe to the newbies list. And we'd have two of the > same list. Yeah, I agree, that just wouldn't work. > > I don't see a problem with this list. The person who started this thread, > after being on the list for only a week, made a very uninformed decision > to say something so devoid of value or thought that it makes less sense > than when a newbie asks a question without checking the manual first. Hehe > > After being on the list for a year, and following the newsgroup for a year > prior to subscribing to the list, I've noticed very few people asking > questions that are answered in the manual more than once ... "repeat > offenders" if you will. And there are even fewer people who are dumb > enough to make an issue out of it. This list is actually quite friendly > to newbies, and is a primary reason why I stay on subscribed. I like > helping new php developers (in terms of using php), and I like that that > there are good number of people who like helping new php developers in a > very friendly manner. I'm not suggesting anyone be unfriendly to newbies, we were all there once and some of us (like me) *still* make newbies mistakes :) > > I suspect that those are the same reasons why new php users subscribe to > the list or follow the news group for a while. > > On Fri, 18 Jan 2002, Nick Wilson wrote: > > > just a very quick note: I've been following the list for about a > > week and I probably follow one or two threads a day. Some of the stuff > > here is *very* interesting. Unfortunately most of the stuff posted is a > > little ridiculous in that it's posted by people that clearly don't know > > where the online manual is located. > > If you notice someone asking a question that has been asnwered in the > manual, and you're going to spend the time writing to the list, you might > as well be as helpful as possible. Answer a question, politely note that I agree, I'm just saying that it would be more helpful to provide a gentle shove toward the relevant section of the manual than a detailed explanation that's been given many times before. > the manual is a great first-source for anwers, and provide a link into the > manual where the person can find that you're telling the truth. Everyone ...er, why would anyone lie? > has a lapse in judgement or knowledge at some point, and if that annoys > you, note that it annoys us to hear that it annoys you. People are more > receptive to someone who treats them with respect than to people who > preach down from a self-built soap box. No one said anything about disrespect. I think you're taking this a little to much to heart. > > I'm not your mom, nor a list moderator ... so take the above as advice > that will help you not look like more of a fool than those whom you think > are foolish. I don't think I look foolish at all :) - -- Nick Wilson Tel: +45 3325 0688 Fax: +45 3325 0677 Web: www.explodingnet.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8SVFxHpvrrTa6L5oRAjgfAJwJSQ37Sc1MluuSGEYf+FGs5+J8GACgn7nR sknCKTSelMnFMY/0i0sqtdg= =7TDr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
