I agree about not starting a war between PHP and ASP. We already have one going on that is out of hand between Linux and Windows :-)
I do think it is up to how you view things. When I think of support being "native" I think of that meaning that something can perform a task using only its own internal capabilities. So in the case of PHP and say Oracle this would mean that PHP could connect to and utilize data in an Oracle database using only functionality that is built into PHP itself. But if you look at http://www.php.net/manual/en/ref.oci8.php you will find that you need to install the Oracle 8 Client Libraries if you want to use the Oracle 8 PHP functions. So is this really "native" support? You can make your own decision on that one :-) I am a professional web application developer and the consulting firm I work for leans heavily toward the Microsoft side so I am very familiar with ASP. I also do PHP on the side and have had one assignment doing PHP on my job. * My personal preference is PHP because the language is so elegant and I like the cross-platorm aspect of PHP as well. * PHP seems to be supported MUCH better than ASP. * The PHP development cycle is more current. * Possibly the biggest thing I like about PHP over ASP is dynamic includes. Those developers out there know what I mean about this one. Including a file dynamically say from a database field or some other approach. Believe it or not this really opens up a lot of doors in your development. Just my personal opinions and you will find probably everyone on this list will have their own. But that is fine too. It my be best to look at the problem to be solved then choose the platform and language that will best solve it. ----Original Message Follows---- From: Philip Hallstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Robert Klinkenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PHP] Re: PHP vs. ASP Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 08:51:40 -0800 (PST) I don't want to start a war, but last time I looked PHP had native support for every database I'd ever heard of including Oracle, SQLServer, etc... Just don't want the guy doing the report that php is database limited... On Wed, 9 Jan 2002, Robert Klinkenberg wrote: > Well, I personally prefer PHP over ASP because better support from > webhosting companies, but ASP has some good points. > This is especially the case if you can setup the complete hosting > environment yourself and have some money to spend. > > First of all databases. PHP has support for a limited but interesting list > of databases, especially the support for mysql and postgres is handy for a > webserver. On the other hand, ASP has good support for most bussiness > servers (ORACLE MS SQL Server,....) with OLE-DB and a lot more databases > with ODBC. > > The development tools. Definately a win for ASP (with vb.net C# and C++ you > have a complete IDE and with Dreamweaver Ultradev you can pretty much point > and click. SO you can choose whatever tool you like. > PHP has very limited IDE's. > > Price. ASP solutions are mostly build with Windows 2000 Server and MS SQL > Server or Oracle and an expensive IDE. So it's pretty expensive to build. > PHP is mostly used with Linux, Apache and MySQL and is a lot cheaper (you > only need to buy the hardware and the software is virtually free) > > Programming language: This is off course a personal taste but with ASP > (.net) you can use VB/C++/C#. So if you are used to VB or C++ it's a bit > easier to start with. > > Modules. Both have a lot of free tools available. However I personally find > the PHP modules more usefull. (With the exception of the Crystal Report > generator in .net, pretty usable reports without a lot of work). > > It's a bit easier for a novice to get started with ASP as with PHP, and it's > pertty easy to make the project look good. > > So, if you have the cash and some inexperienced programmers working for you > ASP is the save bet. If you have a small company, are a student, depend on > webhosting or are a pretty experienced programmer, PHP might be a better > choose. > > Robert Klinkenberg > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
