lol, ok (sorry I've been staring at a text file looking for bugs for 3 hours)
this is the type of error msg phpmyadmin is giving me; Warning: Only 0 bytes were written, expected to write 32516 in - on line 82 sometimes it says line 74, or 130 as well I was kinda hoping someone might know of some common things which might trip up mysql or php in a string, since this is my best guess as to the reason for the error. Steve.