I understand what performance issues this brings, but as for security
was just a bit curious. You have just showed me what I was thinking
about, but you wrote it much better, clear and structured.

Thank you.

2012/3/26 Stuart Dallas <stu...@3ft9.com>:
> On 26 Mar 2012, at 17:41, Alex Pojarsky wrote:
>
>> Now, as the issue adressed and script removed, can you please explain
>> what exactly are the issues of using such approach? I mean security
>> ones, not performance.
>
> It's the wrong solution to a process and organisation problem. Ultimately 
> it's not really a problem IF you control every part of the infrastructure. 
> Rene clearly doesn't so it has implications for everyone sharing that 
> infrastructure, and anyone using the applications hosted there.
>
> * It requires the host to enable allow_url_fopen which means every single 
> script on the server is then able to include/require URLs. It just needs one 
> of them to have a related vulnerability and suddenly people can execute 
> arbitrary PHP code on the server.
>
> * Rene mentioned that the code is open source. This implies that the security 
> risk is lessened because the code that is being made publicly accessible is 
> already publicly accessible, so the opportunity for someone to find 
> vulnerabilities already exists. It gets an order of magnitude worse if other 
> people start ignorantly using his code because they're essentially giving him 
> the ability to execute arbitrary PHP code on their server. Not good no matter 
> how much he protests that he won't "be evil."
>
> * You specifically wished to exclude performance from the discussion, but 
> scalability is potentially a big issue here and should not be completely 
> ignored.
>
> I think the real issue for Rene is that of perceived complexity. The idea of 
> having to manually keep many copies of the same code in sync is what leads to 
> finding solutions like this one. This solution leads to unnecessary network 
> traffic and introduces potential security risks that go way beyond your own 
> code, and even if it's not a big issue now it has the potential to become 
> catastrophic!
>
> I'd put a fair amount of cash on my guess that Rene is not using any form of 
> source control. To me that is the best solution to this problem. Curtis 
> mentioned rsync which will also do the job, but in my view you're nuts if 
> you're not using some form of source control already, and building a largely 
> automated process around that is trivial and automatically audited.
>
> Rene: please read a book / website / something on PHP security. Some things 
> are important whether you believe they are or not.
>
> -Stuart
>
> --
> Stuart Dallas
> 3ft9 Ltd
> http://3ft9.com/

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