On 18 Nov 2011 at 05:40, Robert Cummings <rob...@interjinn.com> wrote: 

> without a proof it's just farts in the wind :) No more valid than a
> theory of creation or the big ass spaghetti thingy majingy dude. Folded

The "theory" of creation is not a theory. It's a hypothesis, as is "scientific 
creationism".

> Thus before the big bang
> is perfectly valid whether we could perceive it or not.

Not really. It's as meaningless as asking what's north of the North Pole.

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Cheers  --  Tim

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