if you use the newest PDT, you will find that a new php file has no final ?>
I vote for your co-worker [?]

On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 3:49 PM, LinuxManMikeC <linuxmanmi...@gmail.com>wrote:

>
> http://framework.zend.com/manual/en/coding-standard.html#coding-standard.overview.scope
> "This document provides guidelines for code formatting and
> documentation to individuals and teams contributing to Zend
> Framework."
>
> So as far as anything other than code being contributed to Zend
> Framework, its just a suggestion.  For your programming team, you're
> the boss, you make the decision.  The only benefit I see is preventing
> the white space mistake (as your co-worker's quote mentioned), but I
> agree with you on that point.  "Just don't put any white space
> there... moron..." :-)  Its an inconsequential option, pull rank, get
> back to work.
>
> On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 1:24 PM, Daevid Vincent <dae...@daevid.com> wrote:
> > I'm having a debate with a co-worker about adding the final ?> on a PHP
> > page...
> >
> > To be honest, I am the lead, and I could pull rank and be done with the
> > discussion, however I don't like to be that way. I would rather do the
> > right thing. If my way of thinking is old-school (I've been coding since
> > PHP/FI), and what he says is the newfangled proper PHP/Zend way, then I'd
> > rather adopt that, despite how icky it makes me feel to leave an unclosed
> > <?php just dangling and alone, all sad-like. In my mind, "nobody gets
> left
> > behind"! :)
> >
> > Is there ANY side-effects to leaving the end ?> off? Is it any more work
> > for the compiler? And yes I know computers are hella-fast and all that,
> but
> > I come from the gaming industry where squeeking out an extra FPS matters,
> > and shaving off 0.01s per row of data in a table matters if you have more
> > than 100 rows. A 1 second wait IS noticeable and a 10 second is even
> moreso
> > -- just try to talk for 10 seconds straight without a pause. Or sit there
> > and stare at a screen for 10 seconds!
> >
> > If the main argument is that it's to prevent white-space after the code,
> > then most modern editors that I'm aware of will automatically trim
> > white-space (or have a setting to do so). Plus this is ONLY a factor when
> > you're trying to output a header and things like that. In 90% of your
> code,
> > you don't deal with that. It's also obvious enough when you have an extra
> > character/space because PHP pukes on the screen and TELLS you something
> > about "blah blah sent before header output" or something to that effect.
> >
> > What do you guys all do?
> >
> > I also created a poll here http://www.rapidpoll.net/arc1opy
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Co-worker
> > To: Daevid Vincent
> >
> > Actually, Zend states that you should omit the final ?> on include pages.
> > There is no harm in the action, and it prevents you from accidentally
> > adding white space after the tag which will break the code.
> >
> >
> http://framework.zend.com/manual/en/coding-standard.php-file-formatting.htm
> > l
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Daevid Vincent
> > To: Co-worker
> >
> > Please DO include the final ?> I noticed on several of your files that
> you
> > have purposely omitted it. Yes, I know the files work without them, but
> it
> > makes things easier to see the pairings for matching <?php . Plus it
> keeps
> > things consistent and I'm not a big fan of "special cases" as this is,
> > especially if it's a bad habit to get into since in all other cases it's
> > required except this one "lazy" one. If you are concerned about white
> space
> > sending in a header or something, well then just make sure there isn't
> any.
> > I've had no problems and it makes you a more careful coder.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Daevid.
> >
> >
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