On Thu, 2009-02-05 at 21:28 +0000, Nathan Rixham wrote:
> Robert Cummings wrote:
> > On Thu, 2009-02-05 at 21:03 +0000, Nathan Rixham wrote:
> >> revDAVE wrote:
> >>> Hi Folks,
> >>>
> >>> I¹m curious if there are any previous discussions / Articles / URL¹s that
> >>> compare the power and scalability of MySQL (with php) with other
> >>> technologies like MS sequel server oracle -  coldfusion etc....
> >>>
> >>> I imagine that most middleware like php / asp / coldfusion is relatively
> >>> good & fast - (let me know if one is better ).  Mostly I¹m concerned with
> >>> the speed and power of the backend database as to how it functions on an
> >>> enterprise scale ­ such as how many hits it can handle per hour ­ how many
> >>> users before it starts to slow down etc.
> >>>
> >>>
> >> honestly, if you're thinking enterprise scale then database is the least 
> >> of you're worries, you'll be needing to move away from a scripting 
> >> language and go for a pre compiled programming language.
> > 
> > Isn't Yahoo using PHP? I thought Facebook too? Doesn't seem like they
> > moved away from a scripting language.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Rob.
> 
> only for the display tier in certain parts AFAIK, facebook had a good 
> success using APC cache; however the bulk of their "applications" are 
> certainly not php.
> 
> ie:
> 
> TIER 1 |-A : many many db servers
>              |    <------( cluster / distribution point)
>              v
>              |
>         |-B : distributed caches (like terracotta)
>         |-C : entity manager / persistence manager
>         |-D : domain model
> TIER 2 |-E : business logic
>         |-F : app interface / web service interface
>              |    <------( cluster / distribution point)
>              v
>              |
>         |-G : web service client
> TIER 3 |-H : display interface
>              |     <------( cluster / distribution point)
>              v
>             HTTP
>              |
> CLIENT |-I : end user client (web browser)
> 
> that's vastly simplified with loads left out, a short time ago yahoo 
> rolled out 40k new apache hadoop servers - you really think the just 
> bolted a connector on the front ran a few php scripts then popped on 
> some caching?

You said "move away from scripting", it doesn't seem as though they
have. They've merely augmented their system with other tools.

Cheers,
Rob.
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