> > But then, this debate comes up about once a month because people don't 
> > know how to RTFA of this list.
> >
> > And I don't know about you, but I've written a BASH script to work with my 
> > PHP script to work with an API to deal with relational and flat files and 
> > mail interfaces that takes me 1 line of code to use and 5 seconds to type, 
> > before my morning Mt. Dew.  *shrug*
> 
> But can you create a database table, then generate the PHP scripts which 
> generate the HTML and SQL which allow an online user to read, write, update 
> and delete records from this table without writing even a single line of 
> code? Can you do this with immediate access to a role based access control 
> system, an audit logging system and a workflow system?
> 

*YAWN* yeah, I have another script that'll do that.

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