On Tue, 2007-08-07 at 15:52 -0500, Greg Donald wrote:
> On 8/7/07, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Yeah, the numbers really show Python and Ruby winning... NOT *LOL*.
> 
> You mean how both Ruby and Python list serv traffic is way up while
> PHP's is way down?

Way up and way down are trends. Trends may be fads or they may be
sustained cultural changes. Time will tell, but it certainly hasn't told
yet. I hardly consider list serv traffic an indicator of language
superiority... especially when high traffic may be an indicator of bugs.

>   Even the PHP dev list is really slowed the past
> year or so.. just some guy named Richard bothering them about random
> stuff every once in a while, that's about it.  Oh, and the occasional
> namespace discussion.  To namespace or not to namespace, who really
> cares.

Those who discuss it *lol*.

> But to clarify the obvious for those without their own clue bat with
> which to beat one's self, I was referring to language quality with
> regard to OO.  PHP is a cluster-fuck in comparison to pretty much
> anything out there.. except maybe Perl's OO.  And go look at PHP SPL,
> and tell me that's not Java by another name.

I dunno, I don't use it. Haven't found a need for it yet.

> PHP is the absolute worst language to do any sort of OO programming in.

That's a very subjective statement. I've had no trouble writing OOP
since PHP3. I like references in PHP4, and it's nice that PHP5 uses
automatic references when assigning objects by value. But that's just
cake icing. OOP is a programming style, not necessarily a language
construct.

Cheers,
Rob.
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