-TG:

Thanks for your explanation and time.

Normally, I don't alpha++ anything -- not to criticize others, but to me it 
doesn't make much sense to add a number to a character.  But considering the 
php language is so string aware, as compared to other languages, I just tried 
it on a lark just to see what would happen.

Okay, so I found out it's limitations and quirks.

But, you must admit that it is confusing to have a loop that goes from "a" to 
"z" and considers "aa" but not "aaa".

Now, if the loop just went from a to z, then I would think that would be 
logical. But I fail to see the logic behind considering "aa" but not "aaa" in 
the evaluation. But then again, I'm not that informed.

Enough said.

tedd



At 12:21 PM -0400 6/5/06, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I know this discussion doesn't need to continue any further..hah.. but I think 
>the biggest confusion people are having is that they're looking at two things 
>and assuming that PHP operates the same on both and these two things serve 
>different purposes.
>
>1. Incrementing strings: Best example giving was "File1"++ == "File2" or 
>"FileA"++ == "FileB".  In that case, wouldn't you want it to go from FileZ to 
>FileAA?  Makes sense right?
>
>2. Comparing "greatness" of strings:  Rasmus mentioned this earlier, but I 
>wante to illustrate it a little more because I think it was overlooked.  If 
>you have a list of names, for instance, and you alphabetize them, you'd get 
>something like this:
>
>Bob
>Brendan
>Burt
>Frank
>Fred
>
>Just become a name is longer doesn't mean it comes after the rest of the names 
>in the list.  So in that vane, anything starting in "A" will never be > 
>something starting with a "Z".  a < z  aa < z  aaa < z because:
>
>a
>aa
>aaa
>z
>
>When using interation and a for loop and " <= z" it gets to "y" and it's true, 
>gets to "z" and it's still true, then increments to "az" and yup.. still < 
>"z".  As mentioned, it's not until you get to something starting in "z" with 
>something after it that you're > "z".
>
>So hopefully that makes a little more sense.
>
>-TG
>
>
>
>= = = Original message = = =
>
>tedd wrote:
>> At 1:09 PM -0700 6/4/06, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:
>>>> I agree with [1] and [2], but [3] is where we part company. You see, if 
>>>> you are right, then "aaa" would also be less than "z", but that doesn't 
>>>> appear so.
>>> Of course it is.
>>>
>>> php -r 'echo "aaa" < "z";'
>>> 1
>>
>> You missed the point, why does --
>>
>> for ($i="a"; $i<="z"; $i++)
>>  
>>   echo($i);
>>   
>>
>> -- not continue past "aaa"? Clearly, if "aaa" is less than "z" then why does 
>> the loop stop at "yz"?
>
>I thought I explained that a few times.  The sequence is:
>
>a b c ... x y z aa ab ac ... yx yy yz za zb zc ... zy zx zz aaa aab
>
>Your loop stops at yz and doesn't get anywhere near aaa because za > z
>
>-Rasmus
>
>
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