--- John Nichel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I'm not big on certs myself. How many MCSE's have we seen who can't find the power switch? ;)
This was a big concern for me when working with Zend on their certification. Especially in the open source communities, certifications are not considered to be very valuable, and MCSE is the top reason for this.
Of course, we tried very hard to make this one have a fair amount of value but not just be difficult for the sake of being difficult. I think we did a pretty good job, but only time will tell. Regardless of whether we did a good job with it, the perception of certifications that comes from seeing clueless MCSEs everywhere is definitely an obstacle within the community. Outside of the community (where the PHBs reign), this certification is definitely a good thing for all of us.
Chris
I understand where you're coming from, and I'm sure with your involvement in the project it will be top notch. I've always been impressed with your work, and am eagerly awaiting your O'Reilly book. ;) There used to be a time when certifications actually meant something (back when I got A+ certified, it was still considered to be a good thing in the tech community). Microsoft and their cookie cutter 'engineers' have really hurt the whole value of a certification in the tech sector. Those in management (non-tech) still like that piece of paper though, so that will help all legitimacy to PHP in that area. The geeks are going to be a tougher crowd to convince though.
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