Hi --

...and then T. H. Grejc said...
% 
% Justin Patrin wrote:
% >The threading works just fine. The problem is that users have ignorant 
% >mail software that don't set the thread headers correctly. Even 
% >newsgroup client software might do this. This is *not* the server's 
% >fault in any way, shape, or form.
% 
% Sure it's not servers fault, knowing that news.php.net is not *real* 
% news server. It is mailing list mirror. News server dont make threads 
% based on subject like mailing list, but based on message header field.

Suppose for a moment that this list turned into a newsgroup instead of a
mailing list.  What would those same people causing problems on the
existing list use to access the news server?  Outhouse.  And so what
would happen to the headers and the threading?  The same thing.

The problem is endemic to the users, and so the only solution must be
applied there.  Changing over to a new server won't matter at all.


% 
% News servers are cheaper, faster, easier to use, more accessible, easier 
% to archive than mailing lists. That's why I dont see the point of 
% mailing list being primary to php.net.

Because mailing lists are good.  Mailing lists give the recipients more
control and, in this day and age of easy connectivity, make more sense
than replicating a news store everywhere.  I'm sorry if that doesn't
serve your needs well, and I am glad there is a mail-to-news gateway
which should provide a news server for you, but such a thing sure doesn't
serve me (as an example) -- since I only get to read in chunks, I'd miss
countless posts because they'd expire off of the news server before I got
there, whereas when they're safely locked up in my mailbox I can get them
any time I need to.

Don't get me started on the whole spam problem, either.  All of the
newsgroups I've loved over the years have gone downhill due to being
flooded with spam.  I could be wrong, but I don't know of any news spam
cleaners; they're all meant for email.

Mail is good.  News is less so, though it has its place.


HTH & HAND

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