Cookies, or browsersession. I found the latter to be very
easy to work with.

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Kim Steinhaug
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"Al" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> > I am trying to figure an accurate way to calculate how many users are
> > viewing a site, at any particular time. This task is very simple except
> for
> > one part - How do you determine when a person has left the site...apache
> > hasn't served anymore requests from a particular ip for xx minutes ??
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> There is no surefire way to measure the exact time a user leaves your
site.
> The most accurate way I can think of would be to use a hidden frame on all
> your pages that refreshes itself every X seconds. When a user has not
> requested that special tracking page for more than X seconds, you can
assume
> they have 'left' the site.
>
> However this solution seems like overkill for most purposes: you'll be
> wasitng server resources and slowing down your users' experience on your
> site.
>
> In response to your proposed method, most advertising associations
> (including the US-based Internet Advertising Bureau) and web analytics
> companies (such as Red Sherrif, Nielsens and Hitwise) define the end of a
> user session on a website when there is 30 minutes without a further
request
> for a page from the site.
>
> And while you may be tempted to track only IP numbers, remember that many
> users are behind shared IP numbers (e.g. firewalls) which may skew your
> stats. You would be better off using cookies on user's machines to
identify
> them and log their accesses to a DB.
>
> Hope that helps,
>
> Al

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