Hi,

        I will give MS credit, they are aware they need to do better, and are
making strides to be better.  I won't fault them on that until they give up,
or stop progressing.

        As for secure environments and code, even linux+php applications and
servers can be volnerable.  I think the whole OS vs OS arguments, and Code
vs Code arguments (in regards to security) are humorous.  Yes, get a good
firewall, and have an auditor audit your system and code.  That will give
you a secure environment.

-Dan Joseph

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike R [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 11:28 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [PHP] Microsoft .NET arguement
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>
>
> Actually, their claim is that Microsoft environments are secure - you just
> need the proper firewall (that, basically, the problems with Windows boxes
> has to do with the firewall, not the OS).
>
> That one I laughed at.
>
> -Mike
>
>
>
> > and next they will no doubt claim that IIS (and windowz in general) is a
> > secure environment -- just the place to run your important applications.
> >
> >
> >
> > ---------- Original Message ----------
> > > From: Mike R <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Date: Monday, November 17, 2003 11:06:37 AM -0500
> > > Subject: [PHP] Microsoft .NET arguement
> > >
> > >
> > > I have someone here at my desk arguing that Microsoft's .NET is better
> > > than PHP - faster to process, easier and quicker to program, etc.
> > >
> > > They also (claim) that Microsoft's SQL is much faster and such vs.
> > > MySQL.
> > >
> > > Any comments to help me defend PHP or to educate me?
> > >
> > > :)
> > >
> > > -Mike
> > >
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