I wanted to create web based slideshow and audio media presentations and was disappointed by two PHP function sets. I would love to hear of any others that might be available. Tried MING, and discovered that there were at least 3 different versions (all numbered version 0.2a) that were incompatible with each other depending on where I installed my code. Example: function swfbitmap 1). would in one case accept a string containing image. 2). in a second case accepted a string containing a file name but not the bitmap 3). and in a third case only accepted a file handle (returned from fopen) of the file containing the bit map and not just the filename. I then tried the SWFlib functions available with PHP and discovered that it is no longer supported, and that source is unavailable. (one reason that a version for the windows platform is unavailable). This also means that keeping up with the latest shockwave reader features is not possible (which bothers me more). Are there any options I have overlooked? thanks in advance, Warren Vail