At 09:36 AM 3/14/01 -0500, Michael Kimsal wrote:
>What they've got now is completely fine - why necessarily change it?

As you've stated, there are many reasons why changing would be a good 
thing, but mostly it's a manager (a higher up executive level mucky-muck) 
throwing out 'Hey what about this linux thingie..." and our IT Director 
(whom I often refer to as FDH for f*ckin d*ck head) saying we'll get right 
on it...


>OK OK - I know many of the reasons why, but moving to another platform,
>you will most likely 'lose' that 'advanced authentication'.  Oooooohhhh.
>
>To gain the flexibility and stability of PHP on Linux/Apache, everyone in
>the company will have to learn to remember their name and password.
>If management thinks that's too difficult for people (a distinct possibilty,
>especially if you have thousands of people) you'll be better off staying where
>you
>are.  You could go CGI PHP on NT, which might be a compromise,
>but you lose the raw speed advantage PHP as an Apache module has.

Yes, the company has deemed this to be too difficult for our employees to 
remember.


>What about security on a machine?  Last intranet I was at in a large company,
>just because we were logged into the network on a machine didn't give us
>automatic access to the intranet - people moved around too much.  You still
>needed to present your name and password for the intranet - and everything
>there
>was NT/IIS/ASP and ColdFusion.


Nope, there is no other security other than the Advanced 
Authentication.  The security is not tied to any specific machine but a 
network login.  So as soon as they login to any machine, their username and 
password is automatically passed to the browser and the advanced 
authentication takes place.  Now this if they access the intranet 
internally through our network.  There is also a basic authentication piece 
to access the intranet externally through the internet but requires a 
domain name, username and password.  The management feels this is 
acceptable because there are very few (VERY few) people accessing the 
intranet this way.




>"Joe Sheble (Wizaerd)" wrote:
>
> > Currently in-house our intranet is made up of Windows NT, IIS, and
> > ColdFusion.  We've also settled on MS IE as our standard browser, and use
> > advanced authentication for logging into the intranet.  This provides
> > employees with one click access to the intranet without having to manually
> > and physically login.
> >
> > We've been tossing around the idea of switching our Intranet to Linux,
> > Apache and PHP but we would then lose that Advanced Atuthentication
> > process, no?  And to even complicate it even a bit more, if accessing the
> > intranet internally through the network (a combination of Novell and NT)
> > nobody should be forced to login (it being an automatic process) but if
> > they access the intranet externally though the internet they have to be
> > prompted for their normal network login information.
> >
> > Are my managers smoking crack, or do the advanced developers here think
> > this is do-able?  And if so, where could I find more information on setting
> > this all up?


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