> on 29/06/03 4:12 AM, Dean E. Weimer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>
>>> What is the point of the web based file manager?
>> To eliminate Local Accounts, and so that they don't have to upload files
>> via ftp or ssh.
>> Plain ftp is very unsecure, and using a secure ftp server can be very
>> confusing to less advanced users.  Also if a user wants to edit web
>> pages
>> on their lunch hour, they may be behind a corporate firewall that will
>> not
>> allow them to connect to a secure ftp server, or use ssh, but http is
>> always available.
>
> Bleh.  I hope you're not charging for this service, because every time a
> service provider has forced me to use a web-based file upload system for
> anything more than one or two files, rather than something clean, quick
> and
> to the point like FTP, I've turned away really quick.
>
> Can you imagine trying to update 10 or even 100 files via a web based file
> upload system?  Every file has to be selected from it's own file input.
> You
> were talking about confusion?  I'd say this takes the cake.
>
> Also, I wouldn't use "Plain ftp is very unsecure" as an argument, because
> so
> is http, and I can only imagine how much slower this sort of app would run
> under https.
>
>
> If this is something free you're offering, geocities style, then that's
> fine, but on a paid-for service, there is a certain level of simplicity
> and
> speed which users expect.  FTP being the obvious answer.
>
>
> Justin
>
It looks like there is no simple solution to this, and your point about
uploading a large quantity of files is well taken.

I think as a solution I will enable a tsl/ssl ftp server and in the short
term use a published PHP solution notftp (http://wonko.com/notftp/) for
the one other user I currently have on the system, I will try to find a
solution for the problems with it under https.  In the long term I will
probably write my own scripts that integrate into a database to do
directory caching, and is entirely based on forms using the post method,
and may eventually publish the scripts.

Thanks to all those who gave me some added insight on this issue.

>
>


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Thanks,
  Dean E. Weimer
  http://www.dwiemer.org/
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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