Sorry to all who think this horse is sufficiently beat, but just to throw 
another couple of cents into the pot...

I think this list is a product of its own behavior.  Some people do get mad 
because of "dumb" or simple questions.  We breed those questions though because 
instead of people explaining to the OP how to FIND the answers, we just type 
out the code for them. So, they essentially don't learn a thing and in a week 
or two they are back.  So, it would be nice to have a concerted effort to 
perhaps teach/guide these newbies and others as to how to find the answers as 
there are numerous resources out there.  Like the old saying goes, "Give a man 
a fish and feed him for a day, but teach him to fish and feed him for a 
lifetime".

-Brad

> It's really funny that this happened because not more than one week ago 
> I was discussing the professionalism of this list with one of my 
> co-workers.  I've been very happy with it, but I remember when I first 
> joined it I asked a pretty dumb question and got slammed by a bunch of 
> people because it was simple, but I was just overlooking the solution.  
> It did make me feel like an idiot, but I dealt with it because this was 
> a GREAT resource for all kinds of other information.  I'd have to say 
> that this is one of the best, most informative lists I've had the 
> pleasure of being a part of and I'd say it's worth getting slammed 
> every now and again if that's what I have to deal with to get solutions 
> to my problems. :-)  
> 
> Cheers...
> 
> Brian
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tim Thorburn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 2:20 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [PHP] chill out
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'd have to agree with the original poster on this topic - I've been on 
> this list for about 3 years now, at times it is helpful - and then 
> there's 
> every other day.
> 
> Granted, there are guru's out there that know all there is to know 
> about 
> PHP, and then there's the new kid that has no idea what it is, but 
> either 
> wants to learn or has to learn.  And it is quite possible that not 
> everyone 
> is as adept at finding information online - if you're new to 
> server-side 
> programming languages in general - how or why would you know of the 
> great 
> many repositories of information available online?
> 
> Sarcasm is one thing, gawd knows I use it on a by the minute basis ... 
> but 
> when a newbie posts a question that may seem simple to some - yet 
> utterly 
> impossible to others, is it constructive to tell them to go back and 
> RTFM 
> in a violent manner?  Suggesting that they review the manual again may 
> help, or better yet - if you think it's not worth your time, that's 
> what 
> the trash can button is for.
> 
> In general, I've had great luck with this list - it just seems the 
> majority 
> of puter ppl don't have super ppl skills ;)
> 
> Now back to work
> 
> 
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