On Wed, 28 Feb 2001 15:16:41 -0600, kmurrah ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
>actually, it IS a timed test, so you cannot simply "spend all day
>looking up
>the right answer."

Heh, maybe not all day, but I took it twice to see if speed was
getting counted in the score. The first time I sped thru it, and the
second time I let sit there for what seemed like enough time to
consult the manual or a book for each question and probably even
write a sample program to check the output (whatever it would take to
double check that I had the right answer).

It scored me the same both times, and for this reason I decided that
it was not a very good system. Besides, at this point somebody's
probably posted the answers on the internet somewhere, making this
thing completely useless.

>BTW, if you do want to take the test, today is the last day that the
>exam is
>offered for free ... tomorrow they start charging $20 or so for each
>exam....
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Mark Maggelet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 2:14 PM
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>Subject: Re: [PHP] Developer certifications
>
>
>On Wed, 28 Feb 2001 20:54:07 +0200 (EET), Dragos Roua
>([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>>Hello,
>>
>>If you'll take a look at Brainbench.com you'll see a PHP4 cert exam
>>there. As
>>brainbench plan to become a paid service, their certifications may
>>start worth
>>something sometime.
>
>The brainbench exam is terrible. It's heavy on knowing the details
of
>mssql functions and oci functions, and no points are given for
speed.
>It's like an open book test so anybody can spend all day looking up
>the right answer, fill it out, and get a perfect score. If you just
>want to get the thing over with you can be honest and dump all the
>answers you don't know.
>
>Anyway, I think that as a benchmark it's garbage. A good test should
>stay away from most modules, and also include speed as a factor.
Also
>It's way too easy to cheat on a test like this, so I don't think
they
>should be taken too seriously no matter what.
>
>I can see requiring a person to pass a test like this before they
get
>a job interview, but a company using the scores as a basis for
hiring
>someone would be silly.
>
>>My 2 cents anyway...
>>
>>> Does anyone know of a company which is offering or planning to
>>>offer PHP
>>> developer certifications? Arguments against certification
programs
>>>aside[1],
>>> there are a lot of companies which prefer certified developers,
>>>even to the
>>> point of assuming a project done in ASP will be better than the
>>>same thing
>>done
>>> in PHP simply because the ASP developers are Microsoft certified.
>>>
>>> While this seems like an interesting sideline for a company like
>>>Zend, I'm
>>also
>>> somewhat curious about whether an "Open Source" test could be
>>>developed. It'd
>>> certainly have to be quite different from normal tests and that
>>>move away from
>>> easily memorized answers would probably be a very good thing.
>>>
>>> [1] We've all heard them before. I'm personally in favor only of
>>certifications
>>> like certain devilishly hard Cisco exams which measure more than
>>> multiple-choice memory.
>>>
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