Having nice simple things like INSERT INTO testtab2 VALUES ( upper('$symbol'), '$two_liner', '$href', '$full_desc', '$submitter_name', '$submitter_email', CURRENT_TIMESTAMP ) I hate to muck them up with a bunch of tests for empty vars, which then need to be replaced with NULL and have the single quotes ommited, etc. if there is some more graceful way? Britton Kerin __ GNU GPL: "The Source will be with you... always." -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]