If you can deal with the obscene cost of living, here in Silicon Valley,
California
you can make ~80/hr doing being just a webmaster. ~100/hr for a GOOD coder,
and ~120+/hr for a really good "real language" coder. That's obviously
without
benefits, options, guaranteed income, vacation, sick days, etc.
-Szii
----- Original Message -----
From: Jonathan Sharp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Philip Olson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Josh G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: PHP User Group <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 6:26 PM
Subject: RE: [PHP] Pricing for PHP programming???
> Yeah, I'm consulting though...but yes there are some other options...where
> does it say $80/hour in the US?!
>
> -Jonathan
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Philip Olson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 6:05 PM
> > To: Josh G
> > Cc: PHP User Group
> > Subject: Re: [PHP] Pricing for PHP programming???
> >
> >
> >
> > One thing to keep in mind is we're mixing up contract jobs and "real"
jobs
> > with contract jobs usually being much higher rates. Not sure on any
> > specifics though but real jobs are pretty secure, eight hours a day ...
so
> > it's a tradeoff. Most (if not all) quotes thus far are in regard to
> > contract jobs.
> >
> > Philip
> >
> > On Thu, 1 Feb 2001, Josh G wrote:
> >
> > > I hear you. Another thing that's hard to find, is somebody who is a
> > > good programmer, and a good graphic designer. I don't really know
> > > any, apart from myself, and I've been just shy of being called a lying
> > > scumbag by a few HR companies over the years when they look at
> > > my resume ;-)
> > >
> > > This thread has really fired up my desire to go the states.... US$80
> > > an hour for php.... daaaaaaaaaaaamn, that's a shitload more than I
> > > make here, which is more like US$20/hr
> > >
> > > Gfunk - http://www.gfunk007.com/
> > >
> > > I sense much beer in you. Beer leads to intoxication, intoxication to
> > > hangovers, and hangovers to... suffering.
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Jonathan Sharp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 12:49 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [PHP] Pricing for PHP programming???
> > >
> > >
> > > > I find this an interesting topic...
> > > >
> > > > One thing that we've found when looking for additional PHP
> > programmers to
> > > > add is that since PHP has exploded there are a lot of people out
there
> > > > coding in PHP that don't have a background in programming or
> > some of the
> > > > design considerations. We've looked at various places from
> > techies.com to
> > > > guru.com and haven't found that many PHP gurus out there. So
> > in terms of
> > > > skill level, what do you all see the going rate? I know I'm
currently
> > > > underpaid at $25/hour and I do ALL the PHP programming, project
> > > management,
> > > > engineering, database theory etc...oh...and did I mention I do all
the
> > > > network support too? (I'm taking my CCNA in June...) so yeah...we're
a
> > > > starup what did you expect?! =)
> > > >
> > > > Comments?
> > > >
> > > > Disclaimer: I don't mean to offend anyone out there who codes
> > in PHP. But
> > > > from the experience that I've had trying to find someone who
> > can really
> > > code
> > > > clean, effecient stuff that plugs into the whole picture has been
> > > virtually
> > > > non-existent...(if you do, please call! We have a few openings!)
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > -Jonathan Sharp
> > > >
> > > > Director of Technology - Imprev Inc.
> > > > Renwick Development Group - Flyerware
> > > > http://www.flyerware.com/
> > > > Phone: (425)688-9200
> > > > Cell: (425)766-1398
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Philip Olson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 5:40 PM
> > > > To: Shane McBride
> > > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: Re: [PHP] Pricing for PHP programming???
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hey Shane,
> > > >
> > > > This is a tricky issue, here's me (USD):
> > > >
> > > > $60/hr
> > > > $30/hr if end result becomes open sourced (no strings)
> > > >
> > > > General discounts for features such as : fun,true
> > non-profit,intelligent
> > > > employer,learning curve and it all lives on a sliding scale
> > depending on
> > > > their ability to pay and my desire for work/money (time).
> > Also, barter
> > > > is usually an option. Usually hovers between 30-50 and one
> > day this will
> > > > go up :-) This is the most difficult part of the job, time
estimates
> > > > and pricing. Bah. "Just give me money and I'll do stuff."
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Philip Olson
> > > > http://www.cornado.com/
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Jan 31, 2001 at 03:25:27PM -0500, Shane McBride wrote:
> > > > > I know this is not really a PHP question, but it should
> > make for a good
> > > > > thread. :)
> > > > >
> > > > > I was wondering what other PHP people charge to write PHP?
> > I have just
> > > > > been given a project for a fairly large customer, much larger than
I
> > > > > normally do work for. So I am VERY confused.concerned about
> > how to price
> > > > > it. Most of my other PHP projects have been done for small
> > single owners
> > > > > businesses, and the PHP has been pretty basic.
> > > > >
> > > > > Now that I can actually do what I am being asked without
> > have to learn
> > > > > it, I am stuck. I did a shopping cart for someone, but I
> > didn't charge
> > > > > them a REAL price because I didn't know how to do it with
> > PHP. So, I of
> > > > > course didn't charge the client for my learning curve.
> > > > >
> > > > > I know the price is very dependant upon the task. What I am doing
is
> > > > > creating a web-based front-end for a MySQL database. I'll
> > need to create
> > > > > the database tables, etc. The front-end is going to be
> > rather dynamic
> > > > > since the data content depends largely on the previous
> > choices of the
> > > > > end-user. One or two tables with 20-30 fields. 5-6 pages of html
and
> > > > > PHP.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm just scouting this out, and am VERY confident with the
> > contributors
> > > > > to this list and their opinions.
> > > > >
> > > > > TIA,
> > > > > Shane
> > > >
> > > >
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