I haven't read all the posts, but as you stated>....
Charge $6000 to the big companies, I have no problem with that. I personally
would be willing to pay that if web applications was my business. But at the
same time, allow those who don't necessarily need to have the encoder but
just want some code encoded to have an affordable solution.
there is an alternative, Zend sells packages of 5 -20- and 100 uses of the
encoder, in license packs.... for allot less.... granted the largest is
still 1000 USD, but its less.... I'm sure that there are other alternatives
to using the Zend encoder, (Obstruficating <SP?> is Rasmus's argument) but
even using his method, there is a BIG possibility that anyone who wants to
will find that hidden security measure, or your DB code, and rip it, hack
it, slash it, and package it to profit from your work.
We are in the process of creating a large project for distribution, and the
encoder is paramount to the system we are designing.... without it, we don't
have a chance in hell of keeping our security keys secure from prying
eyes.... of course, we are one of those companies which can afford to drop
6G's at this program, but we weren't expecting it to run that high. I must
say that Zend did a lousy PR job at promoting the system, but we need to use
it.
Dallas K.
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From: Michael A. Peters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 11:40 AM
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Subject: RE: [PHP] Zend hit (Encoder price)
My question is-
Does the encoder license permit a company to purchase the license, and then
optionally encode php for third parties?
Can I, for example, encode purchase the encoder, and then make a deal with
John who can't afford the encoder to encode John's web application for $150
and give John the encoded version?
The answer, unfortunately, is no, at least as I read the commercial license.
This is really too bad, if you ask me- as there are a lot of really bright
kids out there who have seen that the Open Source model, while very noble
and absolutely loved, doesn't always pay. Why then, should they develop
using php if they are not capable of protecting their code if that's their
choice?
They'll be using Java or C/C++ or perl (which can be encoded for a lot
less).
There needs to be a solution where those who do not yet have big bucks can
take advantage of the encoder to protect what their mind has conceived.
Otherwise, they won't use php (or their code will be ripped off if its
really really good) and zend will lose future market as these brilliant
minds move towards affordable technology to protect what their intellectual
work.
Charge $6000 to the big companies, I have no problem with that. I personally
would be willing to pay that if web applications was my business. But at the
same time, allow those who don't necessarily need to have the encoder but
just want some code encoded to have an affordable solution.
On Thursday, January 25, 2001, at 05:26 AM, Sander Pilon wrote:
>
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > What do you think about Zend position?
> > http://php.weblogs.com/
> > http://zend.com/phorum/read.php?num=3&id=6277&loc=0&thread=6277
> >
>
> I think that if Zend wants to sell it for $6000, then they have all right
> to. These guys have worked hard, and they deserve some cash for it.
>
> If people can't afford it at $6000, then that's their problem. Software is
> intellectual property, it shouldn't be free, and authors should be able to
> charge any price for it they want to charge for it.
>
> But, I don't think it's a wise decision to sell it at $6000, personally I
> think I would sell it between $1000 and $4000, but that's just me. ($6000
is
> a bit on the high side, considering what alternatives one haves for that
> price, and considering that anyone who paid $1000 a year back (I recall
> something about 'sponsoring') gets it all.)
>
> -S
>
>
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