Alexander Wagner wrote:
> 
> Paul K Egell-Johnsen wrote:
> > When in doubt, follow the stream... Check out this, Amazon uses cookies,
> > Amazon does a lot of business. Do you really feel that Amazon misses out
> > on a lot of customers? Do you know of any large websites doing shopping
> > carts which doesn't rely on cookies?
> 
> I don't fear cookies. As many other (geeks, mainly), I just don't like them.
> Especially those that don't serve a purpose (at least not for me).
> I don't know much about Amazon and other shops, but what is wrong about using
> a fallback to GET when cookies are not supported?
> IMHO any decent shop should have this. Even if one-click-one-buy doesn't work
> without a login then.

Hmm, I also said higher up in the post that PHP4 adds the cookie info to
all links when the correct settings have been set and that it might be
possible to determine if a browser allows cookies. (I'm pretty sure that
this is doable, I just haven't taken the time at the moment to look up
that information.)

I do agree with you that one should try to support as many people as
possible. But remember that get cookies can't be maintained over static
html pages on a site, will not help you when other sites refers to a
site, etc.

What really irked me is that you've received advice about market
penetration of shops. Based on my experience it is only geeks/OSS people
who have any problem with cookies, and at the same time those are the
people who are experts and then deal out advice about 'ooh that's bad
karma dude, since many people don't like cookies'.

Of course your advice could be based upon actual numbers, which really
show a significant problem. That's why I tried to elicit from my e-mail,
does anyone have numbers which can give a good indication of which
things makes people stay or not stay at a shop?

Then I'll worry about the most significant problem and work down the
list. And, if I suspect correctly it isn't a problem with the get cookie
vs ordinary cookie since PHP4 has an ease method for doing this if you
use native cookie handling.

http://manual.php.net/ would probably show you how to do this, btw.

-- 
Paul K Egell-Johnsen
Utvikler/PR Manager
eZ systems as
http://ez.no/

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