ID:               40186
 User updated by:  tony at marston-home dot demon dot co dot uk
 Reported By:      tony at marston-home dot demon dot co dot uk
-Status:           Bogus
+Status:           Open
 Bug Type:         OCI8 related
 Operating System: Windows XP
 PHP Version:      5.2.0
 Assigned To:      tony2001
 New Comment:

Before you start complaining about my attitude you should look in the
mirror. Your own attitude has been arrogant,  dismissive and unhelpful
right from the start.

If you had said "Yes, this is a bug, but the problem lies with the OCI
API which is supplied by Oracle. Let me contact them to get this sorted
out" that would have been a satisfactory response.

Instead what do you do? You direct me to a totally inappropriate API,
and when I point out that fact you complain that this is not a support
forum. Then you say "I can't fix it therefore it ain't broke" and "fix
it yourself". This type of attitude does not inspire me with any
confidence in your abilities. There is a problem with the PHP to Oracle
interface, yet you don't seem to care and refuse to lift a finger to
help. Is it any wonder that I am totally pissed off?


Previous Comments:
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[2007-01-30 11:59:58] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

>Your attitude is that "I can't fix it, therefore it is not my
problem".

It's impossible to fix it using existing OCI calls, therefore this is
not PHP problem.
It's THAT simple.

>What you realy need is a status that says "pending update
>from 3rd party library" instead of the ubiquitous 
>"bogus", which implies that the bug reporter does not know >what he is
talking about.

"Bogus" means "no PHP bug here", which can be surely applied in this
case.
Please don't change the report's status anymore.

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[2007-01-30 11:43:50] tony at marston-home dot demon dot co dot uk

But the point is that you are not helping me to solve this problem.
Your attitude is that "I can't fix it, therefore it is not my
problem".

I do not care in whose code the bug exists, the fact that I cannot read
a record containing a VARRAY is a bug. I can do it with MySQL and
PostgreSQL, but not Oracle. That is a serious deficiency.

What you realy need is a status that says "pending update from 3rd
party library" instead of the ubiquitous "bogus", which implies that
the bug reporter does not know what he is talking about.

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[2007-01-30 11:23:27] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

>but there is no such thing as "if it can't be fixed it ain't broke".

Sure there is.
PHP uses countless third-party libraries and bugs in those libraries
are NOT PHP bugs and this is not a place to report them.
Such bugs fall to "Bogus" category, which means they are not PHP bugs
and should be reported elsewhere.

>If the fault lies with the OCI8 interface provided by
>Oracle then I insist that this bug report remain OPEN
>until such time as the OCI8 interface is fixed

You can create a feature request when it's fixed in Oracle.

>Then, and only then, will I consider this bug report to be closed.

You may consider anything you like, but this problem still does not
belong to PHP bug tracker.

Please consider also changing your attitude.
You probably misunderstood something, but "shut up and do what I say!"
is not correct attitude to use with a person whom you're asking to help
you to solve _your problem_.

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[2007-01-30 11:10:58] tony at marston-home dot demon dot co dot uk

Thus is a genuine bug. Do not mark it as bogus.

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[2007-01-30 11:09:49] tony at marston-home dot demon dot co dot uk

Just because YOU are incapable of fixing this bug does *NOT* mean that
it is not a bug and can be marked as "bogus".

There is a saying "if it ain't broke don't fix it", but there is no
such thing as "if it can't be fixed it ain't broke".

If the fault lies with the OCI8 interface provided by Oracle then I
insist that this bug report remain OPEN until such time as the OCI8
interface is fixed, in which case you will be able to make this PHP
extension function properly. Then, and only then, will I consider this
bug report to be closed.

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