Edit report at http://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=53481&edit=1

 ID:                 53481
 Comment by:         iradu at unix-world dot org
 Reported by:        ilies dot radu at gmail dot com
 Summary:            The future of PHP
 Status:             Bogus
 Type:               Feature/Change Request
 Package:            Unknown/Other Function
 Operating System:   Any
 PHP Version:        5.3.3
 Block user comment: N
 Private report:     N

 New Comment:

But there is an alternate plan :-))))))

If you're doing so,



In the way that MariaDB will be a replacement for MySQL,

in the same way I will hire some developers to continue the development
of PHP4.4.9 with a new project / name (RHR or something) and I bet that
doing so many people will move on that :-))))))))))))))))))))



But this is not feasible on the moment, I will prefere you will follow
some of my recommendations for the future development of PHP.


Previous Comments:
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[2010-12-06 10:42:15] iradu at unix-world dot org

Please read this article:

http://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonVsPhp



I am not the only one that say that 5.3 and future way is a mistake.

These people are also pro's:

http://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonVsPhp

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[2010-12-06 10:40:00] ilies dot radu at gmail dot com

You have still no idea how many people have started migrating their apps
to PostgreSQL :-)

You will have this feedback in 2 years.

For me take 3 months to migrate a very complex app.



If you continue so, migration from PHP to Python will be imminent.

I have predicted many things in the past, includding that Oracle will
buy MySQL after they acquired InnoDB :-)

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[2010-12-06 10:30:00] ahar...@php.net

</rant>

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[2010-12-06 10:28:32] ilies dot radu at gmail dot com

Description:
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I would like to know why are you changing so much the things with PHP
???

I hate the direction you are going ... with PHP 5.3 !

You completely destroyed the friendly language PHP 4 - 5.2 was.

I just looked at what you have done with mysqli extension ! Pathetic !



After 12 years of PHP/MySQL development,

I have already migrated all my apps to PostgreSQL (and many people I
know from the Open Source community) started to did so after predicting
that Oracle will not allow anymore linking the PHP MySQL extensions with
PHP extensions. (Example: the new mysqlnd) !!



But more I am concern for the future of PHP.

I am tired of your dirty work by forcing a whole community arround PHP
to follow you new WRONG WAY !

If you change too many things, I plan moving all my apps on Python.

Python is considering a more stable and predictable way of going with
the language.



PHP IS NO MORE THE FRIENDLY LANGUAGE I MET 12 years ago !!!!!!!!!!

You are trying to go in a wrong direction.

Complaints:

* PHP 5.3 add name spaces ... who cares ? Cannot the classes be useful
enough ?

* PHP 5.3 added GOTO (this is for stupid developers) .. I cant figure
out a developer that is using advanced namespaces with GOTO !!!

* PHP 5.3 destroyed the syntax of MySQLi like mysqli::__construct()
instead of mysql_connect() with a new deprecated model (and perhaps you
plan doing this also with pgsql)

* PHP 6 plan to move some drivers in PDO ! PDO sucks, is for basic
users, not for advanced.



I predict a very grey future for PHP community if you continue doing
this dirty things.

As me and many others have moved on PostgreSQL after Oracle acquired
Sun/MySQL and started going on a wrong direction, THER IS A CHANCE IF
YOU CONTINUE THIS WRONG DIRECTION THAT MANY PEOPLE (INCLUDDING ME) TO
MIGRATE TO PYTHON OR PERL
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Expected result:
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You will take care that PHP 5.3 / PHP 6 / PHP 7 / PHP 8 / ... 

to remain the friendly language as PHP 4.



If you remember (I can very well) that the adoption curve of PHP 4 was
because it's easy to use. PHP 5 ... is something very wrong in my
option.



I know many people still using PHP 4.4.9 :-), but I am already on
5.2.14.

They are ... stupified of what they see in PHP 5.x and they still did
not look closer at 5.3 !



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