ID: 49511 Updated by: u...@php.net Reported By: casper at procurios dot nl Status: Assigned Bug Type: MySQL related Operating System: * PHP Version: 5.3, 6 (2009-09-09) Assigned To: mysql New Comment:
For the public and on "libmysql not compatible": Pierre and I had an argue on IRC. While we still disagree in some points we concluded it would be benefitial to document some background information for users - either in the docs or on the wiki. On the bug itself: I am waiting for Andrey to review a patch. Previous Comments: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ [2009-09-16 12:13:45] u...@php.net Any bug reports on libmysql crashes we could work on? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ [2009-09-16 12:04:47] paj...@php.net I'm not blaming anyone, I'm only saying that we can forget libmysql on windows, no matter which compiler we use as the crashes occur too with the other versions. Now, it seems that you insist that we should use libmysql. Does it mean that mysqlnd is not usable or will not be usable in a production environment in a reasonable time frame (aka 5.3.1)? No irony meant here, but if it is the case then we have a serious problem to solve. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ [2009-09-16 11:46:38] u...@php.net Pierre, I already stated that MySQL does no longer support VC6. MySQL does not support VC6 because Microsoft itself does not support it. Who to blame? It depends on how you feel about VC6 being EOL'd. If you think it should not have been EOL'd, you need to blame both Microsoft and users of Microsoft products, such as MySQL. If you consider the EOL of VC6 as reasonable, the root cause of the VC6 trouble is neither Microsoft nor MySQL. The trouble is caused by those who still use VC6 for their binaries and/or do not make their source compile with recent versions of Visual Studio and therefore cause incompatibilities. Not supporting VC6 is not a bug, it is a feature decision. Not supporting compilers which are out of maintenance, is a pretty sane policy in my eyes considering lack of vendor support, lack of bug fixes, lack of support for modern hardware. VC6 is from the same generation as GCC 2.8.0. I wonder how many of us bother about GCC 2.8.0 ... For every reasonable current (no GCC 2.8 no VC6!) environment the availability of a binary (here: libmysql) is unrelated to the question if a software can be used. I am sure that there are Linux systems which use a glibc (stdc++, etc. ) that is not compatible with the glibc used to build a certain software. This does not necessarily mean that you cannot use the software altogether. As a last resort you can always try to compile it yourself on the target platform. I am aware how inconvenient it is for php.net to build tons of libraries from source. Any request for a pre-compiled binary that uses CRT x.y is as valid as a request for glibc x.y. It is good and correct to precisely repeat any build request - preferably at bugs.mysql.com. This is the best place to make MySQL do anything for you. Anyway, I still cannot believe that it is *impossible* to the the MySQL Client Library together with ext/mysqli, ext/mysql or PDO_MYSQL. If you have any problems compiling the MySQL Client Library from source using a recent version of Visual Studio, please report it as a bug on bugs.mysql.com. If any of those self-compiled libraries cannot be used because of faulty coding leading to stinky run-time dependencies, please report it as a bug on bugs.mysql.com. If you think the code of the extensions needs to be tweaked to be compatible with any such binary, please report it as a bug on bugs.php.net or bugs.mysql.com. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ [2009-09-16 07:30:33] casper at procurios dot nl Hi Ulf, Your solution seems spot on. Also, I don't understand what you are saying here: "To get the same behaviour in mysql as with libmysql, we would need to set the streams timeout to 1 year upon connect and wait. We may wait longer than max_execution_time. However, it seems that by default default_socket_timeout > max_execution_time and thus it may be irrelevant to take care of it." In the manual on set_time_limit() it says: "Note: The set_time_limit() function and the configuration directive max_execution_time only affect the execution time of the script itself. Any time spent on activity that happens outside the execution of the script such as system calls using system(), stream operations, database queries, etc. is not included when determining the maximum time that the script has been running. This is not true on Windows where the measured time is real." (http://www.php.net/manual/en/function.set-time- limit.php) Regarding default_socket_timeout = -1 -> endless: It could be that it's just overflowing an int, resulting in 2^64-1 or 2^32-1 seconds. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ [2009-09-15 20:59:16] paj...@php.net Sorry, I was not clear. Bugs have been reported and nothing has been done so far. It is not a PHP bug and no, the libmysql libraries (5.0 or 5.1) does not build with VC6 either. As I said, we rather have to fix mysqlnd instead of forking libmysql for our usages (as we will have to do to support VC6). I really don't want to do that for the next 3-4 years (expected lifetime for 5.3) :) And yes, your comment about this bug is right, Ulf agrees too afaics :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The remainder of the comments for this report are too long. 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