> On 7 Aug 2025, at 22:32, Norbert Hartl <norb...@hartl.name> wrote:
>
> Stef,
>
> I didn‘t want you to be stressed about that. It is all not so serious. Do as
> you prefer even if you keep the project name.
For me this is the same. I took Foliage by respect to your work but I prefer
EcstatiK (it was the name of the project for website rendering inside pillar
that was unborn because no time for it).
But I will keep Foliage
> As there is no problem right now there is no action to be taken. I just
> wanted to express my confusion.
I understand I forgot to tell it to you at ESUG.
> Maybe just continue is the best for you. I‘m interested in joining forces
> but I won‘t find time now to do it. So you are in control.
> I understand that you want to go fast. And if I recall what mess you did to
> pillar I might even prefer a full fork 😉 and continue my way on foliage
> later.
Yes I remember because I could get all the books not be able to get compiled
and more :)
This is not by control that I did not want your changes. But the work to get
the books working was too large for me.
May this is not obvious for everybody but we have some books written using
Microdown and Pillar
https://github.com/SquareBracketAssociates/BookBuilderDashboard/blob/master/README.md
<https://github.com/SquareBracketAssociates/BookBuilderDashboard/blob/master/README.md>
It took me a while to migrate them (even with an automatic converter).
So I’m getting to the point I want
- microdown for class comments
- microdown for documentation in doc/ folder
- book generation (missing the book web rendering)
- book browsing inside pharo
- static web generation
All this without pillar syntax and infrastructure because some parts are old
So I will continue to work improving microdown, pillar and foliage.
S.
> Norbert
>
>> Am 07.08.2025 um 17:37 schrieb stephane ducasse <stephane.duca...@inria.fr>:
>>
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> I started to rename the project in EcstatiK and I was starting to rename all
>> the classes but I will stop and keep it like that (except if you want to
>> keep the name) under pillar-markup.
>>
>> So let me
>>
>> - do you prefer that I rename it?
>>
>> - do you prefer to join the pillar verion? and gain benefit the energy
>> I spent.
>>
>>
>>
>> I will not found of pushing changes to your repo because I want the freedom
>> to go fast
>> and I do not know if you have the time to follow our burst of dev.
>>
>> For me this project is an important one and I spent already a lot of time to
>> arrive to the point I needed.
>>
>> S.
>>
>>> On 7 Aug 2025, at 17:17, stephane ducasse via Pharo-users
>>> <pharo-users@lists.pharo.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Norbert
>>>
>>> There was no activity since years on this project.
>>>
>>> My bad.
>>> I will rename all the classes and the project and like that there will be
>>> no confusion:
>>>
>>> - I spent 6 months changing microdown to rescue the extension Esteban did
>>> (that did not work in recent microdown) to be able to build the Pharo
>>> website.
>>> - I cleaned the dependency to old pillar classes.
>>>
>>> S
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 7 Aug 2025, at 10:35, Norbert Hartl via Pharo-users
>>>> <pharo-users@lists.pharo.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> this mail is not meant to disapprove your release, Stef.
>>>>
>>>> But I want to say that I find it strange to see a release of my project
>>>> from another source. I did not abandon the project and will pick it up a
>>>> bit later. So this is the source of my confusion.
>>>> It also might be a weak point about the model of forking projects. While
>>>> forking and progressing projects is a very useful thing, making releases
>>>> from every source feels strange.
>>>>
>>>> Norbert
>>>>
>>>>> Am 03.08.2025 um 15:34 schrieb stephane ducasse via Pharo-users
>>>>> <pharo-users@lists.pharo.org>:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello
>>>>>
>>>>> I released a new version of Foliage: v2.1.0
>>>>>
>>>>> Foliage is a static web page generator.
>>>>> It takes as input Microdown (including HTML) and generates HTML.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ### Features
>>>>>
>>>>> It supports:
>>>>> - Composable template
>>>>> - Simple yet nice blog
>>>>> - [For researchers ] automated publication list generation
>>>>> - Plugin architecture to support extension
>>>>>
>>>>> ### Examples
>>>>>
>>>>> - https://www.pharo.org <http://www.pharo.org/> is generated using
>>>>> Foliage1.0 but Foliage2.0 can generate it too.
>>>>> In the future we will migrate to Foliage 2.0.
>>>>>
>>>>> - https://stephaneducasse.github.io <https://stephaneducasse.github.io/>
>>>>> is an example of Foliage 2.0
>>>>>
>>>>> ### Documentation
>>>>>
>>>>> - There is simple documentation
>>>>> http://github.com/pillar-markup/Foliage/doc
>>>>> - In addition https://github.com/FoliageSample is a little example
>>>>> generating a minimal website for Tintin.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Foliage was created by Norbert Hartl.
>>>>> I extended it
>>>>> - It uses now the most recent versions of Microdown
>>>>> - Added tests
>>>>> - Introduced a plugin architecture
>>>>> - Support for automated publication list generation
>>>>>
>>>>> http://github.com/pillar-markup/Foliage
>>>>>
>>>>> S.
>>>>>
>>>>> Stéphane Ducasse
>>>>> http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr
>>>>> 06 30 93 66 73
>>>>>
>>>>> "If you knew today was your last day on earth, what would you do
>>>>> differently? ....ESPECIALLY if, by doing something different, today might
>>>>> not be your last day on earth.” Calvin & Hobbes
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>> Stéphane Ducasse
>>> http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr
>>> 06 30 93 66 73
>>>
>>> "If you knew today was your last day on earth, what would you do
>>> differently? ....ESPECIALLY if, by doing something different, today might
>>> not be your last day on earth.” Calvin & Hobbes
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Stéphane Ducasse
>> http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr
>> 06 30 93 66 73
>>
>> "If you knew today was your last day on earth, what would you do
>> differently? ....ESPECIALLY if, by doing something different, today might
>> not be your last day on earth.” Calvin & Hobbes
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
Stéphane Ducasse
http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr
06 30 93 66 73
"If you knew today was your last day on earth, what would you do differently?
....ESPECIALLY if, by doing something different, today might not be your last
day on earth.” Calvin & Hobbes
