> On 9 Apr 2024, at 01:41, Haroldo Stenger <haroldo.sten...@gmail.com> wrote: > > hi dear Stéphane > > thank you very much for your mail. > > I first have to say that I could already pass over this. > The problem that originated the red ! in the method pane, or better, what > made it disappear, was that x and y were originally written as instance > variables without any initialization in an initialize method. It was a weird > effect so to say, that a uninitialized variables made this , making one (me ) > think that this was a breakpoint, which in the end , wasn't. What added to > making me think this, was the red breakpoint label in the protocols pane, > which in addition , I misperceived was parenting the 'a' protocol, when in > fact was simply a sibling. The third thing that misguided me, was that > breakpoints are marked in several parts of the system browser as red !, even > the right click menu on the method. However , it was the other issue of > uninitialized variables. I'll try to redo and isolate this , both in Pharo > 11 and 12 snapshot in order to help polish the UI, if that's of any value.
Always :) > I appreaciate a lot that you redirect me to Bloc list, bc I was afraid of > going there with such a newbe issue, which by the way I still didn't get > right (putting one little square along the circumference). Just a toy > approach on my part in order to learn both Pharo and Bloc. But maybe I'm > hittiong against some rough part of Bloc, which has to do with 'refreshes' . > I still coudn't make the squares render. I'll report back on this later in > the week, maybe also in the Pharo list. I will start to work on a little tutorial to build a clock in Bloc based on the work on Renaud and I will add it to the Bloc chapter. A general problem about software is that it is often fun to develop but people forget the documentation part. So I will try to learn bloc and write what I understand and share it. S > You always encourage to ask and I value that a lot! I did that also in > discord channel. > best regards > Haroldo > > El dom, 7 abr 2024 a la(s) 5:38 p.m., stephane ducasse > (stephane.duca...@inria.fr <mailto:stephane.duca...@inria.fr>) escribió: >> Hi arnoldo >> >> Sorry for the inconvenience often I edit and recompile the method to remove >> a breakpoint. >> In P12 we redid all this part. >> this is the first time I see this. >> Which version of pharo are you using? >> >> - Did you see the vides in the first week of the mooc? because they explain >> the IDE. >> http://mooc.pharo.org <http://mooc.pharo.org/> >> - You can have support if you ask in the discord channel >> https://discord.gg/QewZMZa >> >> - for Bloc there is separate mailing-list >> lse-openbloc <lse-openb...@inria.fr <mailto:lse-openb...@inria.fr>> >> you can register at http://sympa.inria.fr <http://sympa.inria.fr/> >> >> >>> On 5 Apr 2024, at 11:16, Haroldo Stenger <haroldo.sten...@gmail.com >>> <mailto:haroldo.sten...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> hi nice pharo people >>> >>> I'm doing my very initial attempts in Pharo. Having read something >>> here and there. >>> Now I've put myself to subclass BlElement in order to add a method of >>> myself to this subclass. >>> The subclass got named 'Circulo'. Then I had a hard time trying to >>> create a protocol to 'host' it, but finally it got created as protocol >>> 'a'. Initially it got created in the third pane in the browser, below >>> without any apparent 'breakpoint hierarchy'. However, as soon as I >>> wrote the method and got to save/accept it, something strange >>> happened, namely, 'brakepoint' protocol was created out of nothing , >>> and my 'a' protocol was put under it. The method itself in the fourth >>> pane, has a red ! sign. If I right click on the method, and try to >>> remove the breakpoint, it does nothing. What happens this and how can >>> I have a normal situation , since I did not put breakpoints ? Thanks >>> for your kind help >>> <image.png> >> >> Stéphane Ducasse >> http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr <http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr/> >> 06 30 93 66 73 >> >> "If you knew today was your last day on earth, what would you do >> differently? ....ESPECIALLY if, by doing something different, today might >> not be your last day on earth.” Calvin & Hobbes >> >> >> >> >> Stéphane Ducasse http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr 06 30 93 66 73 "If you knew today was your last day on earth, what would you do differently? ....ESPECIALLY if, by doing something different, today might not be your last day on earth.” Calvin & Hobbes