FWIW

I've seen similar issues with P9 and P10 in my simple project - which has
nothing fancy happening with threads or processes .

Typically the system would sometimes freeze for about 20 minutes and then
resolve by itself. Days of trying workarounds finally revealed the Spec2
layout calculations were very very busy.

Perhaps the geometry calculations  aren't readily converging? Changing the
initial window size seemed to magically sidestep the problem. Also slightly
changing some values for  #add:height: #add:widget: constraints in the
layouts seemed to avoid the problem too. Finicky indeed...

I also occassionally see the P9 and P10 environment freeze if left
unattended too long. No idea why.

Sometimes a presenter won't display properly unless and until I click in
another window. No idea why.

SpTablePresenters often paint with column alignment problems -  you need to
click the table -  or reset with #items: to get a neatly aligned result...

Coping with these behaviours can be incredibly time consuming...

I wonder how many people are seeing similar quirky behaviours...?

On Fri, 29 Apr 2022, 3:50 am Stewart MacLean, <stew...@xtra.co.nz> wrote:

> Thanks all for your suggestions/replies.
>
> Nothing fixes it for now. I accept that due to the single threaded nature
> of the UI that there will be glitches occasionally, and when you are using
> low level interfaces.
>
> The weird thing is this happens after restarting, when everything should
> be pristine!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Stewart
>
> On Thu, Apr 28, 2022 at 9:41 PM Noury Bouraqadi <bouraq...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I've got it too with P9 when I leave an image open for a while. I becomes
>> unresponsive and I have to kill it from the Mac OS "force quit" popup.
>> Hppened to me with the Pharo launcher too.
>>
>>
>> Noury
>> On Apr 28 2022, at 3:47 am, Yanni Chiu <yannix...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Try switching focus to another app on your Mac (e.g. Finder or web
>> browser), then back to Pharo
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 8:44 PM Stewart MacLean <stew...@xtra.co.nz>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> [Pharo 10 on Mac Monterey]
>>
>> Due to the multi-process nature of Bonjour that I'm attempting to
>> interface to, I am crashing the system ALOT as it disappears down a black
>> hole and I try to figure out the cause.
>>
>> However, I've noticed that most of the time when I restart Pharo it is
>> unresponsive to clicks and I have to relaunch Pharo AGAIN! Argh....!
>>
>> The mouse moves but no one is at home. Right click brings up menus, but
>> they don't respond.
>>
>> As I move the mouse, list items are highlighted.
>>
>> As this is a completely new OS process, I'm wondering what is causing
>> this behaviour?
>>
>> Has anyone else experienced this, or have an explanation?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Stewart
>>
>>

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