Hi Esteban
Many thanks for your help on this. A. I managed to get it working with a small change – which looks like it was due to issue 1263 as you indicated And this technique was successful my main application too. Next, I will load the latest merge for Spec2 and do it properly. “Test class>>esteban <example> | items | items := { #one -> 'one'. #two -> 'two' }. table := SpTablePresenter new addColumn: (SpStringTableColumn title: 'Key' evaluated: #key); addColumn: (SpStringTableColumn new title: 'Value'; evaluated: #value; beEditable; onAcceptEdition: [ :item :newValue | item value: (newValue getText string) ]; yourself). table items: items. table openWithSpec .” B. Do you think there is any merit in using a notifications design approach in this example? (e.g. using ‘model changed’)? (That was my first instinct…but I couldn’t see how to do it.) If you think that makes sense, does Spec2 have the hooks required to do it this way? C. My comment on documentation was a good hearted grumble - and is not about the source code... I think the community urgently needs guides like the ‘An Introduction to user interface building with Spec 2.0’ – this one is still WIP after many months. The trial and error learning curve for all the part timers like me is very inefficient and frustrating. I understand manpower and time are seriously limiting factors, but more good learning resources would really help wider adoption of Pharo IMHO. That’s just useful feedback I hope… 😊 Again, many thanks for your help. Cheers Mark, Perth WA From: Esteban Lorenzano <esteba...@netc.eu> Sent: Sunday, 20 March 2022 10:15 PM To: Any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users@lists.pharo.org> Cc: pharo-users@lists.pharo.org Subject: [Pharo-users] Re: Another question about Spec2 and SpTablePresenter Hi, well, the incomplete documentation of Spec states clearly that you will be receiving two parameters: onAcceptEdition: aBlock "Set the block to execute when cell edition is accepted. `aBlock` receives two arguments: - the element of the table (See `SpAbstractListPresenter>>#items:` - the string entered while editing" acceptAction := aBlock So, when you set beEditable to your column, you can do something like this: items := { #one -> 'one'. #two -> 'two' }. table := SpTablePresenter new addColumn: (SpStringTableColumn title: 'Key' evaluated: #key); addColumn: (SpStringTableColumn new title: 'Value'; evaluated: #value; beEditable; onAcceptEdition: [ :item :newValue | item value: newValue ]; yourself); items: items; open. and then you can edit whatever you want and update your item. Now, since this is a mechanism that has not been used a lot yet in morphic backend, I just discovered and fixed a bug (not in editable tables, but that affects it: https://github.com/pharo-spec/Spec/issues/1263), so if you want to actually use the functionality, you will need to wait until is merged (tomorrow). Esteban On Mar 20 2022, at 10:26 am, Mark O'Donoghue <mark.odonoghue.2...@gmail.com <mailto:mark.odonoghue.2...@gmail.com> > wrote: Howdy all I am making progress with quite a large application which relies heavily on Spec2 ( but Spec2 is such a big learning curve for me – especially given the incomplete documentation… 😊) I am currently struggling with the following issue: I have a SpTablePresenter which shows a collection of domain objects (subclassed from Model). The domain object are instances of ‘Asset’ which is a relatively simple class. The table works fine. Now, I need to be able to update some columns , but I don’t think I want to build a separate form for doing classic CRUD operations. (There is no need for create or delete functionality – so an in-situ update seems desirable…). I’ve made a start using SpStringTableColumn >> beEditable and #onAcceptEdition: But I can’t see how to work out what row and column has changed, and how I can update the corresponding Asset instance(s). It thought it would be handled using #whenModelChanged: but there are models in many places (and at several levels in the Spec hierarchy)… I’ve tried following it all the way down to the adapters and morphs but I can’t see how the freshly edited cell interacts with the model or announcements. (BTW - It doesn’t look like the ‘selected item’ features are appropriate since you can do edits in other rows regardless of what row is/isn’t selected.) Is there a correct and/or elegant way to detect these cell changes in a SpTablePresenter and apply them to my domain objects…? Cheers Mark From: Mark O'Donoghue <mark.odonoghue.2...@gmail.com <mailto:mark.odonoghue.2...@gmail.com> > Sent: Sunday, 4 July 2021 5:26 PM To: pharo-users@lists.pharo.org <mailto:pharo-users@lists.pharo.org> Subject: Question about Spec2 and SpTablePresenter Howdy all I’ve got stuck trying to manage Tables – over 12 hours now and I’m out of ideas!. ☹ Any observations / suggestions are most welcome… I’ve been loading small external files of transactions using NeoCSV into Spec2 tables. I am trying to use Fuel to persist the table contents so that my application will re-load the working state from where I finished in the last session. (I’ve opted for Fuel as a simple alternative to having to do the whole object relational mapping thing.) The idea is that transactions (and potentially some manual adjustments) will be processed over time. (This is preferable to having to reload all files from the beginning evert time I run the application…) The Spec2 tables have been working well until I tried to persist them. I can’t seem to fully re-load them to a previously saved state. For example - I can restore the essential contents of my table in most circumstances using: restoreObjects “filePresenter1 is a SpTablePresenter” | objects savedEntry | objects := CpPersist restoreObjectsFromFileNamed: 'E:\Me\zzzST-Test\demo.fuel'. recentFileList := objects at: 1. currFileFilter := objects at: 2. savedEntry := objects at: 3. self updateFilterButton: currFileFilter. filteredFileList := self filterFilesUsing: currFileFilter. filePresenter1 items: filteredFileList. savedEntry ifNotNil: [filePresenter1 selectItem: savedEntry ]. However, if any of the table columns are re-sorted , the re-load operation gets confused and I can’t get the saved a saved selected item to become selected again. (It seems to be confusing the index numbers of the sorted and unsorted lists – even when I match by contents rather than index.) (I also created an equality test to ensure equivalent entries are recognised by the #= operation in the list of the underlying model ). This all works fine - unless I sort a column! Since this approach was going to be used on several screens I’d really like to find a solution. Cheers Mark Perth, Western Australia